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clfenwi · #61 Postby **clfenwi** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:40 pm

Correction sent out for previous vortex message... 8 nautical mile wide eye... not 80...

URNT12 KNHC 121836 CCA
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 12/18:14:10Z
B. 28 deg 27 min N
067 deg 05 min W
C. 850 mb 1412 m
D. 60 kt
E. 314 deg 023 nm
F. 053 deg 057 kt
G. 315 deg 024 nm
H. EXTRAP 997 mb
I. 17 C/ 1526 m
J. 22 C/ 1524 m
K. 16 C/ NA
L. CLOSED
M. C08
N. 12345/ 8
O. 0.02 / 3 nm
P. AF307 0109A IRENE OB 06 CCA
MAX FL WIND 57 KT NW QUAD 18:06:50 Z
SLP EXTRAP FROM 850 MB
GOOD RADAR SIGNATURE

clfenwi · #62 Postby **clfenwi** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:41 pm

1929 2832N 06711W 01525 5044 212 001 204 166 003 01516 0000000000
1929. 2831N 06712W 01523 5044 262 004 208 164 006 01514 0000000000
1930 2829N 06713W 01524 5043 287 011 204 170 012 01517 0000000000
1930. 2828N 06714W 01527 5042 311 015 200 182 016 01520 0000000000
1931 2827N 06715W 01524 5040 317 018 194 188 019 01520 0000000000
1931. 2825N 06716W 01524 5037 317 022 190 190 024 01523 0000000000
1932 2824N 06718W 01525 5034 318 025 186 186 026 01527 0000000000
1932. 2823N 06719W 01524 5031 314 027 180 180 028 01529 0000000000
1933 2821N 06720W 01523 5027 318 033 172 172 034 01531 0000000000
1933. 2820N 06721W 01524 5022 315 037 176 176 038 01538 0000000000
1934 2818N 06722W 01525 5017 315 037 178 178 039 01544 0000000000
1934. 2817N 06722W 01523 5011 306 044 158 158 045 01548 0000000000
1935 2815N 06723W 01526 5006 306 047 146 146 047 01556 0000000000
1935. 2814N 06724W 01524 5001 305 048 148 148 049 01559 0000000000
1936 2812N 06725W 01521 0003 305 050 140 140 050 01559 0000000000
1936. 2811N 06726W 01527 0009 302 052 144 144 053 01571 0000000000
1937 2810N 06727W 01524 0014 301 053 158 158 053 01573 0000000000
1937. 2808N 06728W 01523 0017 301 053 154 154 054 01576 0000000000
1938 2807N 06729W 01525 0022 300 055 148 148 055 01583 0000000000
1938. 2806N 06730W 01523 0027 301 055 136 136 056 01586 0000000000

x-y-no · #63 Postby **x-y-no** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:45 pm

clfenwi wrote:Correction sent out for previous vortex message... 8 nautical mile wide eye... not 80...

Oops!

#64 Postby **dhweather** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:48 pm

ah, 8, 80, so what! :lol:

clfenwi · #65 Postby **clfenwi** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:50 pm

2. Remaining aircraft data (including "Vortex Messages" from the U.S. Air Force C-130s and NOAA P-3s) go through a quality control (QC) process by the aircrew and by the U.S. Air Force unit--the Chief, Aerial Reconnaissance Coordination All Hurricanes (CARCAH)-- collocated with the NHC. CARCAH, not the NWS/NHC, disseminates these products after the QC process is complete.

3. Preliminary reconnaissance data are often shared by CARCAH with the collocated operational hurricane forecaster before CARCAH completes the QC process. NHC products and/or media interviews sometimes reflect this preliminary data up to a few minutes before the QC process is complete and CARCAH generates and disseminates its Vortex Message product.

4. The time stamp on the CARCAH Vortex Message product from the C-130s is actually the time the crew on those aircraft locate the center of the tropical cyclone. It can take up to 20 minutes for the crew to complete their data analysis process and for the information to make its way to CARCAH and the NHC facility from the aircraft. More time is required for data QC, product generation, and dissemination. This is the reason customers may receive the product 30 minutes, give or take, after the vortex message time stamp, and this could be a source of the misunderstanding.

QC kinda failed this time..

StormsAhead · #66 Postby **StormsAhead** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:58 pm

1940. 2800N 06733W 01521 0032 282 060 120 120 067 01589 0000000000
1941 2759N 06734W 01531 0039 282 060 118 118 066 01606 0000000000

10-second wind higher in the SW quad, but 30-second the same

wxwatcher91 · #67 Postby **wxwatcher91** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:58 pm

265
SXXX50 KNHC 121614
AF307 0109A IRENE HDOB 16 KNHC
1939 2804N 06731W 01527 0031 300 049 136 136 054 01593 0000000000
1939. 2803N 06732W 01523 0028 282 052 128 128 054 01587 0000000100
1940 2802N 06733W 01524 0028 274 053 120 120 056 01588 0000000100
1940. 2800N 06733W 01521 0032 282 060 120 120 067 01589 0000000000
1941 2759N 06734W 01531 0039 282 060 118 118 066 01606 0000000000
1941. 2758N 06735W 01523 0044 282 056 120 120 058 01602 0000000000
1942 2757N 06736W 01523 0048 288 055 134 134 055 01607 0000000000
1942. 2756N 06737W 01523 0052 287 050 144 144 053 01612 0000000000
1943 2754N 06737W 01525 0057 279 044 144 144 045 01618 0000000000
1943. 2753N 06738W 01525 0060 275 042 148 148 043 01620 0000000000
1944 2752N 06739W 01524 0062 276 041 154 144 042 01622 0000000000
1944. 2750N 06740W 01525 0065 280 044 164 126 046 01626 0000000000
1945 2749N 06741W 01524 0068 285 045 170 112 046 01627 0000000000
1945. 2748N 06742W 01524 0071 288 046 172 108 047 01631 0000000000
1946 2746N 06743W 01523 0073 290 047 174 102 048 01633 0000000000
1946. 2745N 06744W 01524 0075 291 046 174 102 047 01636 0000000000
1947 2744N 06744W 01526 0077 293 046 176 098 046 01640 0000000000
1947. 2742N 06745W 01523 0079 295 043 176 098 044 01638 0000000000
1948 2741N 06746W 01526 0082 296 041 176 098 042 01643 0000000000
1948. 2739N 06746W 01523 0087 293 036 178 102 040 01646 0000000000

67kts

Matt-hurricanewatcher · #68 Postby **Matt-hurricanewatcher** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:00 pm

Wow over the southwest quad 67 knots. I knew this storm was weird. Also with a 80 mile wide eye.

StormsAhead · #69 Postby **StormsAhead** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:01 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:Wow over the southwest quad 67 knots. I knew this storm was weird. Also with a 80 mile wide eye.

Actually it's only 8 miles wide now :lol:

clfenwi · #70 Postby **clfenwi** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:02 pm

67 knots is almost certainly a gust given that the 30 sec avg was only 60...

StormsAhead · #71 Postby **StormsAhead** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:05 pm

1955 2743N 06718W 01523 0071 261 059 162 104 061 01629 0000000000

59/61 knots farther out...the storm seems very symmetrical.

#72 Postby **OuterBanker** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:05 pm

Looks like TPC location at 11 was right on. btw, where is bearing and speed on movement?

clfenwi · #73 Postby **clfenwi** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:05 pm

1949 2738N 06745W 01525 0087 291 032 178 108 033 01648 0000000000
1949. 2739N 06743W 01525 0084 285 033 176 106 034 01644 0000000000
1950 2740N 06741W 01521 0082 280 037 178 098 039 01639 0000000000
1950. 2740N 06739W 01527 0081 277 042 176 094 043 01644 0000000000
1951 2741N 06736W 01523 0080 275 043 176 092 043 01639 0000000000
1951. 2741N 06734W 01523 0078 271 045 178 090 046 01638 0000000000
1952 2741N 06732W 01524 0078 269 048 180 088 049 01638 0000000000
1952. 2742N 06730W 01525 0077 268 050 180 090 050 01637 0000000000
1953 2742N 06727W 01525 0075 267 053 174 098 054 01636 0000000000
1953. 2742N 06725W 01525 0074 267 055 170 100 056 01635 0000000000
1954 2743N 06723W 01524 0073 266 056 172 098 058 01632 0000000000
1954. 2743N 06720W 01524 0072 262 056 170 102 057 01633 0000000000
1955 2743N 06718W 01523 0071 261 059 162 104 061 01629 0000000000
1955. 2744N 06716W 01525 0070 259 059 162 104 060 01630 0000000000
1956 2744N 06713W 01524 0070 257 056 160 110 058 01630 0000000000
1956. 2744N 06711W 01525 0069 252 056 150 128 057 01630 0000000000
1957 2745N 06709W 01525 0069 248 054 148 136 054 01629 0000000000
1957. 2745N 06706W 01526 0070 247 053 156 136 054 01632 0000000000
1958 2745N 06704W 01521 0068 243 050 156 134 051 01625 0000000000
1958. 2746N 06702W 01525 0067 241 050 154 132 052 01628 0000000000

Who wants to be that they are QC'ing the snot out of the VORTEX message for the previous pass... probably even double-checking the calendar...

wxwatcher91 · #74 Postby **wxwatcher91** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:10 pm

StormsAhead wrote:
Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:Wow over the southwest quad 67 knots. I knew this storm was weird. Also with a 80 mile wide eye.

Actually it's only 8 miles wide now

whoa! it shrunk really fast! is a sign of strengthening? the tightening up?
:lol:

StormsAhead · #75 Postby **StormsAhead** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:11 pm

wxwatcher91 wrote:
StormsAhead wrote:
Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:Wow over the southwest quad 67 knots. I knew this storm was weird. Also with a 80 mile wide eye.

Actually it's only 8 miles wide now

whoa! it shrunk really fast! is a sign of strengthening? the tightening up?

No way, it's an EWRC! :lol:

StormsAhead · #76 Postby **StormsAhead** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:18 pm

URNT12 KNHC 122012
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 12/19:29:10Z
B. 28 deg 31 min N
067 deg 12 min W
C. 850 mb 1409 m
D. 65 kt
E. 41 deg 039 nm
F. 141 deg 061 kt
G. 042 deg 042 nm
H. EXTRAP 997 mb
I. 13 C/ 1526 m
J. 21 C/ 1523 m
K. 16 C/ NA
L. CLOSED
M. C80
N. 12345/ 8
O. 0.02 / 2 nm
P. AF307 0109A IRENE OB 10
MAX FL WIND 62 KT E QUAD 18:50:40 Z
SLP EXTRAP FROM 850 MB
GOOD RADAR SIGNATURE

80 again?

clfenwi · #77 Postby **clfenwi** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:19 pm

Storm IRENE: Observed By AF #307
Storm #09 in Atlantic Ocean1
Maximum Flight Level Winds Were 62KT (71.3mph 114.8km/h) In E Quadrant At 18:50:40 Z
Estimated Max Surface Winds 55.8KT (64.2mph 103.3km/h) *
Misc Remarks: SLP EXTRAP FROM 850 MBGOOD RADAR SIGNATURE
Date/Time of Recon Report: 12/1929Z
Position of the center: 28° 31' N 067° 12' W (28.5°N 67.2°W)
Minimum Height Measured At Standard Level Of 850mb: 1409m (Normal: 1457)
Surface Winds Were Estimated At: 65KT (74.75MPH 120.4km/h)
Estimated Surface Winds Were Measured 039nm (44.85miles) From Center At Bearing 41°
Maximum Flight Level Winds Near Center Were 061KT (70.15mph 113.0km/h) From 141°
Maximum Flight Level Winds Were Measured 042nm (48.3 miles) From Center At Bearing 042°
Minimum pressure: 997mb (29.44in) -- Extrapolated
Eye Wall Was Characterized As Being: CLOSED
Eye Form Was Characterized As Being Circular , 80nm (92.0 mi 148.2km) wide
Center Fix Established Using: Penetration Radar Wind Pressure Temperature
Center Fix Established At Level(s): 850mb
Navigational Accuracy Measured At 0.02nm
Meteorological Accuracy Measured At 2nm

WindRunner · #78 Postby **WindRunner** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:21 pm

I assume that that would be enough to upgrade to a cane, right?

x-y-no · #79 Postby **x-y-no** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:22 pm

StormsAhead wrote:
80 again?

Sheesh ... well at least it's a consistant bias. :lol:

RU4REAL · #80 Postby **RU4REAL** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:22 pm

is it 8 or 80 :grrr:

I am as confussed as a poot in a spacesuit :eek:

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