THE RIDGE needs to rebuild for any east coast threats

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THE RIDGE needs to rebuild for any east coast threats

#1 Postby rainstorm » Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:45 pm

looks weak for the heart of the cane season

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfstc2.c ... hour=144hr
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#2 Postby WeatherEmperor » Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:47 pm

and i hope it remains weak for the remainder of the season. last thing we need is a repeat of last year for any given area not just FL.

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#3 Postby rainstorm » Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:56 pm

very true
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#4 Postby mahicks » Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:08 pm

Hey....Someone Help me out PLEASE!!

Can u please show me the ridge on that pic?????

I would like to say I know a good bit about hurricanes themselves but I'm a NEWBIE to understanding Ridges, Troughs, ULL's, AntiCyclones, etc..etc...

Does someone have a good FAQ link or anything??
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#5 Postby Anonymous » Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:17 pm

People forget that the ridge is not always there. It builds back and moves around throughout time.
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#6 Postby cinlfla » Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:20 pm

People forget that the ridge is not always there. It builds back and moves around throughout time.



But is there any links where a not so weather savvy person might be able to educate themselves on ridges, ulls etc....as the other poster asked.
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#7 Postby Droop12 » Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:22 pm

Since when is August 7th the heart of the hurricane season? Ridges build and dissapate almost daily, its a bit early to post something like this.
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#8 Postby WeatherEmperor » Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:25 pm

oh no aug7th is not the heart of the hurricane season. what she was trying to say is that if this pattern persists then the heart of the hurricane season could see a weak ridge....I think.

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#9 Postby TS Zack » Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:30 pm

Any storm in the caribbean would get pushed West into the Gulf then North.

Only storms that would recurve are if they just come off africa and form quickly which is highly unlikely or a storm North of the islands.
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#10 Postby fci » Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:51 pm

I am willing to be a spectator this year and not have to put up any shutters, close my business for days at a time......
The ridge is doing fine for me!!!
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#11 Postby mahicks » Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:59 pm

cinlfla wrote:
People forget that the ridge is not always there. It builds back and moves around throughout time.



But is there any links where a not so weather savvy person might be able to educate themselves on ridges, ulls etc....as the other poster asked.



I've asked for the same thing several times, I've never gotten a response or an answer...

Oh Well :(

I'll continue my vain search.........
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#12 Postby WindRunner » Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:01 pm

I want one storm this year, but that would require a semi-weak ridge to send one through NC or Norfolk. However, I think it's just a little too early to call the strength of the ridge.
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#13 Postby TampaFl » Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:11 pm

WindRunner wrote:I want one storm this year, but that would require a semi-weak ridge to send one through NC or Norfolk. However, I think it's just a little too early to call the strength of the ridge.


Be very careful what you wish for :eek: You just may get it :eek: :eek:

Robert 8-)
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#14 Postby Steve » Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:31 pm

That's the 6 day GFS. The last time it was posted I said check the European or UK Met because there would be ridging. And there was. The GFS came in line with it. Not saying it will in 6 days, but the pattern will reverse with all of the warm water in the Atlantic allowing an opportunity for plenty of ridging during the season.

But if you beleive in that run of the GFS, look to the Pacific NW and the high pressure that will be crossing the country and ending up in the Atlantic 6 days after your map.

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#15 Postby rainstorm » Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:37 pm

mahicks wrote:
cinlfla wrote:
People forget that the ridge is not always there. It builds back and moves around throughout time.



But is there any links where a not so weather savvy person might be able to educate themselves on ridges, ulls etc....as the other poster asked.



I've asked for the same thing several times, I've never gotten a response or an answer...

Oh Well :(



I'll continue my vain search.........


the ridge on that map is in red. green indicates troughs, and yellow nuetral areas. the deeper the red, the stronger the ridge. the ridge on that map is very narrow and weak, which would allow canes to recurve out to sea. canes move along the bottom of ridges. the stronger and further west a ridge extends, the more west a cane will move. a strong ridge extending all the way across the atlantic means the united states is in danger of cane hits
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#16 Postby rainstorm » Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:43 pm

this is an example of a strong ridge:

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/cmctc2.c ... hour=024hr
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#17 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:48 pm

http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/tcfaqHED.html

This should answer some of your quastions.

I'm waiting for the ridge to rebuild...
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#18 Postby mahicks » Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:54 pm

rainstorm wrote:
mahicks wrote:
cinlfla wrote:
People forget that the ridge is not always there. It builds back and moves around throughout time.



But is there any links where a not so weather savvy person might be able to educate themselves on ridges, ulls etc....as the other poster asked.



I've asked for the same thing several times, I've never gotten a response or an answer...

Oh Well :(



I'll continue my vain search.........


the ridge on that map is in red. green indicates troughs, and yellow nuetral areas. the deeper the red, the stronger the ridge. the ridge on that map is very narrow and weak, which would allow canes to recurve out to sea. canes move along the bottom of ridges. the stronger and further west a ridge extends, the more west a cane will move. a strong ridge extending all the way across the atlantic means the united states is in danger of cane hits



Thank You Very Much...This is exactly what I was looking for...

Except......The ridge difference in color between the two images isn't that great. I still have alot of learning to do, because at first glance...The first pics "ridge" would make me believe a cyclone would travel along the orange area and come up north over Texas.

The second, "Strong Ridge" pic would have me think that a cyclone would travel to the US East coast and make impact between SC and NC...

With all of that being said....What color is a "Strong" ridge?
Which is a "weak" ridge?
Which is a "we're not sure" ridge?


Sorry for all the questions...I just feel that I'm actually starting to learn something :-)
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Re: THE RIDGE needs to rebuild for any east coast threats

#19 Postby mf_dolphin » Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:56 pm

rainstorm wrote:looks weak for the heart of the cane season

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfstc2.c ... hour=144hr


Can I ask how you equate a 144 hr forecast to the heart of the season? The last time I looked the heart of the seaon is a lot longer than 144 hours away.
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#20 Postby CaluWxBill » Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:57 pm

Sorry rainstorm, the ridge is not correlated perfectly to the Sea Level Pressure map. That shows area of higher (red) and lower (blue). The ridge is best seen at 500 mb and with the layer averaged steering flow. There are two large ridges per the GFS at 18Z out to 144 hours. They are surrounded by the 588 height line. One over the southeast US, Gulf of Mexico and the western Atlantic off the southeast coast. The other ridge extents from 30W east off the picture. There is an upper level low centered at 39W 35N.

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