Sequel To "The Perfect Storm"?

[SEAZSky]

IVAN in the Gulf of Mexico in 2004:

http://www.livescience.com/forcesofnatu ... waves.html

[WOW]

This link also has other interesting wx info....

Stan
Oro Valley, AZ

[PerfectStorm]

yes my thoughts exactly! :>)

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

Link doe's not work. In now Ivan was not a perfect storm. Storms like Emily,Mitch,Gilbert,Isabel,Frances for a time,Andrew,Allen,Camille happen all the time.

[Astro_man92]

Ummm NO THEY DON'T happen all the time wel maybe Emily, Allen, Isabel and Frances but not Mitch, Gillbert, Andrew and Cemille. I think Typhoon Tip was the real perfect storm

[mahicks]

Ummm NO THEY DON'T happen all the time wel maybe Emily, Allen, Isabel and Frances but not Mitch, Gillbert, Andrew and Cemille. I think Typhoon Tip was the real perfect storm

whats the deal with typhoon tip?? could u post a link or something?
Thanks.

[Astro_man92]

K here is a link
Info on Typhoon Tipclick on th blue

[Tampa Bay Hurricane]

A storm like that in the Atlantic would just be insane with THAT size.

[Astro_man92]

and did u see how powerful it was my question is Why and how did it get that big? if it happened now we would a heck of alot more about it

[wxmann_91]

Ummm NO THEY DON'T happen all the time wel maybe Emily, Allen, Isabel and Frances but not Mitch, Gillbert, Andrew and Cemille. I think Typhoon Tip was the real perfect storm

Emily was the strongest July hurricane on record. IMO there's no perfect storm, but many of these you mentioned are almost perfect. Need I remind you of this:?



Allen had the lowest pressure ever recorded in the eastern Caribbean and the GOM. (911 in the eastern Carib. and 909 in the GOM, lowest pressure was 899), and before Ivan, it was the only storm to reach Cat 5 three times.

Isabel was quite nice too. Or don't you remember its eye? (This image is from Derek Ortt's site)



IMHO a near perfect storm doesn't have to kill scores of people. A near perfect storm I believe is one that stands out from all the rest, Isabel with its large eye, Allen with its low pressure, and Emily with its timing. (actually I consider beauty to be one of the most important things when I base on just how "perfect" a storm is, Gilbert/Allen/Emily/Isabel/Mitch/Camille/Andrew type storm doesn't happen every season (you may think it does now, but just look at the inactive periods))

[wxmann_91]

Here's another pic of Isabel (if this isn't perfect then what is?)

[Astro_man92]

god dang isabel had a big eye does that mean that if it moved into a favorable enviroment. I mean NO shear, GREAT anti cyclone over head, and 100 degree waters lol

no no 212 degree watters lol

it would just explode in convection?

Is it possible for a storm to just EXPLODE withconjection and screw up the LLC like through it off balance or some thing???

[Astro_man92]

lol it looks like a tire lol

and gross and scary for some reason "astro_man92 raises his left eye brow in confusion"

[beachbum_al]

Link doe's not work. In now Ivan was not a perfect storm. Storms like Emily,Mitch,Gilbert,Isabel,Frances for a time,Andrew,Allen,Camille happen all the time.

I don't think the poster meant that it was "the perfect storm" but was awe by the height of the waves when it was in the GOM.

[Astro_man92]

I guess

[Derecho]

There are a couple of Supertyphoons that according to one recent paper that may have been stronger than Tip; however they occured after Tip, when recon of Typhoons was ended (Tip was reconned.)

They had astronomically high objective Dvorak numbers; one was Typhoon Angela, I forget the other. Will have to find the paper.

[Normandy]

http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/imag ... oes-ir.gif

That angela correct?

[Astro_man92]

buttip had a central pressure of 879 that is LOW and was HUGE that is why I call is the perfect storm

and that picture of that one typhoon looks funky

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

Every one of those storms have been offically retired but Emily. Also the flight level data for about 2 or 3 hours shown that Emily had 153 knot flight level winds. In the nhc said around 03z that she might of been a cat5.

[Normandy]

I have yet to see one pic of Tip that impresses me.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/images/super-typhoon-angela-poes-ir.gif

That angela correct?

Think of that thing moving Eastward into Florida!!!