We are getting Very Close to a Center Now

gkrangers · #21 Postby **gkrangers** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:43 pm

Astro_man92 wrote:THIS IS WEIRD!!! on my Google earth i have the NHC models showing and in that batch of clouds that you guys are talking about it is shoing 2 invests it doesn't show what invest is what but I think that it is invest 92L and 93L.

Huh?

mike18xx · #22 Postby **mike18xx** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:44 pm

cycloneye wrote:You dont believe what the experienced met Mike Watkins is seeing nor what radar is showing?

Yesterday, it already had an LLC; today, it's gone. PR radar shows a wave axis, not an LLC. VIS looping doesn't show any hint of a concentration-toward-a-center trend.

TS Zack · #23 Postby **TS Zack** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:47 pm

LOL.. Talk about jumping on each other. Look there is a plane that will tell us the truth... :lol:

Good Eye Mike!

x-y-no · #24 Postby **x-y-no** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:50 pm

I see everything from SSW surface winds on the SE side to NNE winds on the NW side. Haven't seen NW or W winds yet - but if the exist they'd be under the convection.

I'd agree that it's close to closing off, somwhere between 16.5N and 17N and between 64.5W and 65.5W.

Motion still looks to be just about due W to me.

#25 Postby **msbee** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:50 pm

dhweather
what is grlevel3?

wxmann_91 · #26 Postby **wxmann_91** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:50 pm

Looking at latest radar loops out of San Juan, a LLC is trying to form just southeast of St. Croix. Still looks disorganized, though.

Lindaloo · #27 Postby **Lindaloo** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:53 pm

Good eye, MW!

Astro_man92 · #28 Postby **Astro_man92** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:53 pm

wxmann_91 wrote:Looking at latest radar loops out of San Juan, a LLC is trying to form just southeast of St. Croix. Still looks disorganized, though.

very disorganized

mike18xx · #29 Postby **mike18xx** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:58 pm

Lindaloo wrote:
mike18xx wrote:This thing has junk spread across 15 degrees of longtitude. It's a big open wave, and tomorrow it'll have its guts ripped out by the Dominican Republic.
Any weather logic to back this up? Thanks.

http://www.ghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goeseasthurr.html

Put it in motion, zoom-factor medium, click on Virgin Islands. Increase loop speed to very fast.

There's no concentration toward any common center here, and no apparent trend to...at least so far. The wave-front remains elongated SW/NE.

I'll say this, though: It's a fast moving wave, and could very easily have gusts in excess of TS-force in the northern squalls.

jrod · #30 Postby **jrod** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:58 pm

It does look like there is a little swirl and some quasi-rain bands associated with the circulation. I cannot see a center of circulation yet, but it appears one is trying to form.

It is so disorganized though.

Lindaloo · #31 Postby **Lindaloo** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:59 pm

mike18xx wrote:
Lindaloo wrote:
mike18xx wrote:This thing has junk spread across 15 degrees of longtitude. It's a big open wave, and tomorrow it'll have its guts ripped out by the Dominican Republic.
Any weather logic to back this up? Thanks.
http://www.ghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goeseasthurr.html

Put it in motion, zoom-factor medium, click on Virgin Islands. Increase loop speed to very fast.

There's no concentration toward any common center here, and no apparent trend to...at least so far. The wave-front remains elongated SW/NE.

I'll say this, though: It's a fast moving wave, and could very easily have gusts in excess of TS-force in the northern squalls.

Awesome, thanks!

jrod · #32 Postby **jrod** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:00 pm

mike18xx wrote:
I'll say this, though: It's a fast moving wave, and could very easily have gusts in excess of TS-force in the northern squalls.

I agree.

#33 Postby **skysummit** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:07 pm

msbee wrote:dhweather
what is grlevel3?

I don't mean to answer for dhweather, but GRLevel3 is the best darn radar program there is! You can find out more about it on my site, plus links to the original site.

http://www.skysummit.bravehost.com/grlevel3_info.html

#34 Postby **dhweather** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:19 pm

msbee wrote:dhweather
what is grlevel3?

It's a program you can buy (free 30 day eval) from http://www.grlevelx.com

This allows you to get level 3 radar data from any NWS radar station
so you can watch from your desktop. You can zoom, and all kinds of nifty
features - it's highly recommended!!

p.s. what skysummit said! :lol:

#35 Postby **skysummit** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:22 pm

Speaking of GRLevel3, here's a screenshot of where a rotation center looks to be located looking at the radar out of P.R.

Lindaloo · #36 Postby **Lindaloo** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:24 pm

dhweather wrote:
msbee wrote:dhweather
what is grlevel3?

It's a program you can buy (free 30 day eval) from http://www.grlevelx.com

This allows you to get level 3 radar data from any NWS radar station
so you can watch from your desktop. You can zoom, and all kinds of nifty
features - it's highly recommended!!

p.s. what skysummit said!

Thanks for the explanation. Good question, msbee.

Astro_man92 · #37 Postby **Astro_man92** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:25 pm

AWWWWWW!!!!! You have to buy it!!?!?!?!?!?!? :cry:

#38 Postby **dhweather** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:26 pm

Sky - what background are you using? Mine cuts off in the middle of Puerto Rico!

I'm using the satellite one from allisonhouse

#39 Postby **deltadog03** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:26 pm

I see a LLC getting really close to being there....around where 18z models initialized...

#40 Postby **MWatkins** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:29 pm

SJU longrange supports at least a broad mid-level circulation...

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/radar/loop/DS.p ... tjua.shtml

Again I think it's very close...it may not be there yet...but the upper environment will get better.

One thing to note...the advisories on Franklin were out awful early...

MW

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