Earliest Named Storm Question

[wafbwx]

Does anyone have a comparison of the earliest named storm records set this year and what year they surpassed? In other words, we've got a record for the earliest 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th named storms this year (I believe)...what records did each of those storms break?

Thanks!

Steve

[Hurricanehink]

I believe it is like this for record firsts:
1- Jan. 8 1978
2- May 17 1887
3- June 11 1887
4- (July 13th 1997) Now: July 5 2005
5- (July 16th 1997) Now: July 11 2005
6- (August 4 1936) Now: July 21 2005
7- (August 7 1936) Now: July 24 2005
8- August 15 1936
9- August 20 1936
10- August 22 1995
11- August 26 1995
12- August 28 1995
13- Sept. 8 1933/6
14- Sept. 10 1933/6
15- Sept. 16 1933
16- Sept. 27 1933
17- Sept. 28 1933
18- Oct. 1 1933
19- Oct. 25 1933
20- Oct. 26 1933
21- Nov. 15 1933

[Astro_man92]

I believe it is like this for record firsts:
1- Jan. 8 1978
2- May 17 1887
3- June 11 1887
4- (July 13th 1997) Now: July 5 2005
5- (July 16th 1997) Now: July 11 2005
6- (August 4 1936) Now: July 21 2005
7- (August 7 1936) Now: July 24 2005
8- August 15 1936
9- August 20 1936
10- August 22 1995
11- August 26 1995
12- August 28 1995
13- Sept. 8 1933/6
14- Sept. 10 1933/6
15- Sept. 16 1933
16- Sept. 27 1933
17- Sept. 28 1933
18- Oct. 1 1933
19- Oct. 25 1933
20- Oct. 26 1933
21- Nov. 15 1933

What about Arlene, Bret, and Cindy????

EDIT: January 8, 1978!!!
PROOF: http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/at1978.asp and http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/at197801.asp

[mtm4319]

Wasn't there a storm that formed in late December and lasted through early January? That would either set a record for earliest formed storm or latest formed storm.

[Hurricanehink]

I believe it is like this for record firsts:
1- Jan. 8 1978
2- May 17 1887
3- June 11 1887
4- (July 13th 1997) Now: July 5 2005
5- (July 16th 1997) Now: July 11 2005
6- (August 4 1936) Now: July 21 2005
7- (August 7 1936) Now: July 24 2005
8- August 15 1936
9- August 20 1936
10- August 22 1995
11- August 26 1995
12- August 28 1995
13- Sept. 8 1933/6
14- Sept. 10 1933/6
15- Sept. 16 1933
16- Sept. 27 1933
17- Sept. 28 1933
18- Oct. 1 1933
19- Oct. 25 1933
20- Oct. 26 1933
21- Nov. 15 1933

What about Arlene, Bret, and Cindy????

EDIT: January 8, 1978!!!
PROOF: http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/at1978.asp and http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/at197801.asp

They didn't break the records. Mtm4319, in 1954, the second Hurricane Alice formed on Dec. 30th, but it wasn't discovered until January of 1955.
http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/at195411.asp
By modern naming techniques, though, it would have been the next available letter.

[wxmann_91]

Interesting how two storms formed in May in 1887.

And no, I don't think there has been a TC that lasted from late Dec-New year's Day. That would be pretty cool though.

EDIT: link to 1887 storms: http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1887/index.html

[wafbwx]

I believe it is like this for record firsts:
1- Jan. 8 1978
2- May 17 1887
3- June 11 1887
4- (July 13th 1997) Now: July 5 2005
5- (July 16th 1997) Now: July 11 2005
6- (August 4 1936) Now: July 21 2005
7- (August 7 1936) Now: July 24 2005
8- August 15 1936
9- August 20 1936
10- August 22 1995
11- August 26 1995
12- August 28 1995
13- Sept. 8 1933/6
14- Sept. 10 1933/6
15- Sept. 16 1933
16- Sept. 27 1933
17- Sept. 28 1933
18- Oct. 1 1933
19- Oct. 25 1933
20- Oct. 26 1933
21- Nov. 15 1933

Many thanks! I'm going to try and use this in my weathercast tonight.

[WeatherEmperor]

nice homework.

<RICKY>

[The Big Dog]

Wasn't there a storm that formed in late December and lasted through early January? That would either set a record for earliest formed storm or latest formed storm.

Yep. December '54-January '55.

[weatherSnoop]

I think senorpepr has most of this covered in the tropical analysis forum...check it out! Talk about doing homework!

[Astro_man92]

I believe it is like this for record firsts:
1- Jan. 8 1978
2- May 17 1887
3- June 11 1887
4- (July 13th 1997) Now: July 5 2005
5- (July 16th 1997) Now: July 11 2005
6- (August 4 1936) Now: July 21 2005
7- (August 7 1936) Now: July 24 2005
8- August 15 1936
9- August 20 1936
10- August 22 1995
11- August 26 1995
12- August 28 1995
13- Sept. 8 1933/6
14- Sept. 10 1933/6
15- Sept. 16 1933
16- Sept. 27 1933
17- Sept. 28 1933
18- Oct. 1 1933
19- Oct. 25 1933
20- Oct. 26 1933
21- Nov. 15 1933

What about Arlene, Bret, and Cindy????

EDIT: January 8, 1978!!!
PROOF: http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/at1978.asp and http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/at197801.asp

They didn't break the records. Mtm4319, in 1954, the second Hurricane Alice formed on Dec. 30th, but it wasn't discovered until January of 1955.
http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/at195411.asp
By modern naming techniques, though, it would have been the next available letter.

that's just crazy

[senorpepr]

Here is the data I have archived...

It is slightly different from the data above, because this data only reflects the date that the storm reached tropical storm status whereas the above data reflects when the tropical storm first developed into a depression. Therefore, this should be more appropriate.

01 - 19 JAN 1978
02 - 17 MAY 1887
03 - 11 JUN 1887
04 - 07 JUL 1995 (05 JUL 2005*)
05 - 17 JUL 1997 (12 JUL 2005*)
06 - 04 AUG 1936 (21 JUL 2005*)
07 - 07 AUG 1936 (24 JUL 2005*)
08 - 15 AUG 1936
09 - 20 AUG 1936
10 - 23 AUG 1995
11 - 28 AUG 1995, 1936, 1933
12 - 29 AUG 1995
13 - 08 SEP 1936, 1933
14 - 10 SEP 1936, 1933
15 - 16 SEP 1933
16 - 27 SEP 1933
17 - 28 SEP 1933
18 - 01 OCT 1933
19 - 25 OCT 1933
20 - 26 OCT 1933
21 - 15 NOV 1933