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#21 Postby tronbunny » Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:16 pm

I am often entertained by postings of observations of "wobbles" of tracks of cyclones.
I don't think there is any good 'rule of thumb' for defining a track confirmation.
But just for argument's sake...
At what point do you think we can say that Franklin is definitely being influenced by either synoptic feature.. the E'rly Trough or the infamous west Atlantic ridge?

I guess along with that, we'd have to agree in the real circulation center, too.

Maybe this whole discussion is why we have these boards and pay learned academics to study and "predict" weather!
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#22 Postby mike18xx » Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:19 pm

The approaching trough appear to me to be more than sufficiently strong to yank Franklin well out to see, and given the brisk northward movement of what appears to be Franklin's center (on VIS), I'd say remaining chanes of a loop back SW into Florida are looking vanishingly remote.

At this point, I think only a decoupled system (i.e., low-level swirl remaining behind while mid/upper stuff is stripped off NE) could have a shot at eventually hitting the US.
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#23 Postby Sanibel » Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:27 pm

I doubt there's anything there that would decapitate Franklin.



Perhaps you are right that, whether the trough is strong enough or not, it is thick enough, and buffers the mid-west High enough, to bump Franklin along out to the Atlantic whether the Atlantic High is stubborn or not?

If the CONUS jet is north enough it will take the mid-west High along north and bring Franklin north in response, however this will allow the Atlantic ridge to build back in pushing Franklin towards the coast. The further east Franklin gets today, the less likely that will happen...
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#24 Postby Jim Cantore » Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:30 pm

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The models are being mostly consistant minus the bam which loops in into Florida
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#25 Postby EDR1222 » Fri Jul 22, 2005 2:35 pm

Starting to look like it is heading northward now. The further north it gets,the more it is likely to get picked up by the trough and swept away.
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#26 Postby mvtrucking » Fri Jul 22, 2005 2:55 pm

EDR1222 wrote:Starting to look like it is heading northward now. The further north it gets,the more it is likely to get picked up by the trough and swept away.


Looks N or even NNE maybe?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html
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#27 Postby chris_fit » Fri Jul 22, 2005 2:57 pm

Bye Bye Frankie
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#28 Postby deltadog03 » Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:12 pm

adios...fishie.....wear a life vest...lol
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#29 Postby Eyes2theSkies » Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:15 pm

Question...The further east it goes now is it more likely to miss the trough and meander while the ridge builds back in?
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