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#41 Postby Pebbles » Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:30 pm

I think reds will get blown off again :)
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#42 Postby Eyes2theSkies » Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:34 pm

Don't count it out yet I have a funny feeling this time tomorrow Frankie will look alot different than it does now. all it needs is convection over the center which is trying to fire now and then its off to the races...
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#43 Postby Pebbles » Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:38 pm

Oh I am not saying Franklin is a goner like others are.. just not all that for tonight at least.. but if the carrib and franklin move a little away from each other or the outflow from the carrib shrinks down where it can't reach Franklin then Franklin can definately start improving again.
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#44 Postby BensonTCwatcher » Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:39 pm

Probably likely to go through this for next 24 hours or so. Until further movement away fron shear/influence of carib outflow. I am not really sure if I am seeing shear fron upper level or just outflow influence.
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#45 Postby Eyes2theSkies » Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:44 pm

i think its out flow but not an expert here
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#46 Postby Ziplock » Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:59 pm

Rainband wrote:Thanks guys. I guess the visible shows it best. PT with all due respect my Bad I was looking at the IR and it did look sheared. Guess small storms are harder to understand. While I am a moderator..I am still learning. Thanks to those that give me the respect and info to do that. :wink:


Rainband, you might want to try this:

NRL site :http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tc_pages/tc_home.html advises that viewing weak TC's using the "85GHz Weak" which can give a clearer picture and better analysis of what is happening with the weaker storms. I think the 85GHz
weak allows penetration into the lower levels storm to see its structure; it isn't dependent upon the -80c type coldest cloud tops (which are mostly absent in storms just getting their act together) as in enhanced IR or even Dvorak analysis images.

I'm a novice, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express the last time I evacuated ;)

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#47 Postby huricanwatcher » Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:04 pm

I want to see some of skeetobites high resolution results. PLEASE
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#48 Postby huricanwatcher » Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:05 pm

Ziplock wrote:
Rainband wrote:Thanks guys. I guess the visible shows it best. PT with all due respect my Bad I was looking at the IR and it did look sheared. Guess small storms are harder to understand. While I am a moderator..I am still learning. Thanks to those that give me the respect and info to do that. :wink:


Rainband, you might want to try this:

NRL site :http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tc_pages/tc_home.html advises that viewing weak TC's using the "85GHz Weak" which can give a clearer picture and better analysis of what is happening with the weaker storms. I think the 85GHz
weak allows penetration into the lower levels storm to see its structure; it isn't dependent upon the -80c type coldest cloud tops (which are mostly absent in storms just getting their act together) as in enhanced IR or even Dvorak analysis images.

I'm a novice, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express the last time I evacuated ;)

Zip



and now you can explain weather .......... better than most ........ lol
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#49 Postby Ziplock » Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:23 pm

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Ziplock wrote:
Rainband wrote:Thanks guys. I guess the visible shows it best. PT with all due respect my Bad I was looking at the IR and it did look sheared. Guess small storms are harder to understand. While I am a moderator..I am still learning. Thanks to those that give me the respect and info to do that. :wink:


Rainband, you might want to try this:

NRL site :http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tc_pages/tc_home.html advises that viewing weak TC's using the "85GHz Weak" which can give a clearer picture and better analysis of what is happening with the weaker storms. I think the 85GHz
weak allows penetration into the lower levels storm to see its structure; it isn't dependent upon the -80c type coldest cloud tops (which are mostly absent in storms just getting their act together) as in enhanced IR or even Dvorak analysis images.

I'm a novice, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express the last time I evacuated ;)

Zip



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#50 Postby abajan » Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:28 pm

Steve H. wrote:Franklin may not make it through the night. Circulation is falling apart and the system is drying up. W. Caribbean system's outflow is disrupting him and robbing energy. NHC will have to declassify him at 11pm unless he really shows some muscle....I doubt it. Good riddens Frankie!!!!

If that happens, yet another record may be broken... Shortest lived tropical storm!
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#51 Postby huricanwatcher » Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:31 pm

Ziplock wrote:
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Ziplock wrote:
Rainband wrote:Thanks guys. I guess the visible shows it best. PT with all due respect my Bad I was looking at the IR and it did look sheared. Guess small storms are harder to understand. While I am a moderator..I am still learning. Thanks to those that give me the respect and info to do that. :wink:


Rainband, you might want to try this:

NRL site :http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tc_pages/tc_home.html advises that viewing weak TC's using the "85GHz Weak" which can give a clearer picture and better analysis of what is happening with the weaker storms. I think the 85GHz
weak allows penetration into the lower levels storm to see its structure; it isn't dependent upon the -80c type coldest cloud tops (which are mostly absent in storms just getting their act together) as in enhanced IR or even Dvorak analysis images.

I'm a novice, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express the last time I evacuated ;)

Zip



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#52 Postby dhweather » Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:33 pm

abajan wrote:
Steve H. wrote:Franklin may not make it through the night. Circulation is falling apart and the system is drying up. W. Caribbean system's outflow is disrupting him and robbing energy. NHC will have to declassify him at 11pm unless he really shows some muscle....I doubt it. Good riddens Frankie!!!!

If that happens, yet another record may be broken... Shortest lived tropical storm!


I swear - from a blob, to a TD, to a TS, back to a shameful blob in 12 hours
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#53 Postby Brent » Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:36 pm

dhweather wrote:
abajan wrote:
Steve H. wrote:Franklin may not make it through the night. Circulation is falling apart and the system is drying up. W. Caribbean system's outflow is disrupting him and robbing energy. NHC will have to declassify him at 11pm unless he really shows some muscle....I doubt it. Good riddens Frankie!!!!

If that happens, yet another record may be broken... Shortest lived tropical storm!


I swear - from a blob, to a TD, to a TS, back to a shameful blob in 12 hours


It's failing miserably in the blob category.
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#54 Postby Swimdude » Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:43 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:It is a record. In the last 150 years there has never been 6 named storms before August!!!!


Well over a week before August... Jeez, what's going on... :eek:
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#55 Postby Steve » Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:51 pm

Just remember that Franklin was always a better looking system on visible. He'll be fine by morning ;).

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#56 Postby Sanibel » Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:10 pm

It doesn't shock me that activity right in the wake of a major hurricane flashes off in a diurnal off-phase. Climatology was against it.

Caribbean always struck me as EPAC oriented.


Franklin should break off and form...
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#57 Postby EDR1222 » Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:12 pm

It will be interesting to see the visibles cause he is looking really void of thunderstorms this evening, and a very small area of winds as well. That would appear to make him extremely vulnerable to the effects from the Caribbean system.
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#58 Postby Nimbus » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:23 pm

Looks like the low level center is still slowly rolling west out from under the convection.
At Franklins current intensity he is not much worse than a surprise afternoon T storm though.
Its hard to judge position from just the IR images.
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#59 Postby Windy » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:39 pm

Nimbus wrote:Looks like the low level center is still slowly rolling west out from under the convection.
At Franklins current intensity he is not much worse than a surprise afternoon T storm though.
Its hard to judge position from just the IR images.


Well, maybe on land. I sure wouldn't want to be in a sailboat out in that! :)
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#60 Postby senorpepr » Mon Jul 25, 2005 9:55 pm

Hyperstorm wrote:
senorpepr wrote:I'll update my stats in the Tropical Analysts' Forum later tonight, but here's some quick facts...

Over the past 30 years, the sixth tropical storm, on average, formed on Sep 12. Over the past 154 years, make that Sep 19.

The ten earliest years for the sixth tropical storm to form...

2005 ... 21 July
1936 ... 04 Aug
1995 ... 08 Aug
1993 ... 12 Aug
1990 ... 13 Aug
1887 ... 14 Aug
1893 ... 15 Aug
1886 ... 15 Aug
1959 ... 18 Aug
1909 ... 20 Aug


Senorpepr, where did you leave 1933? That year had an early start with the sixth tropical storm forming in mid-August...


Ahh.. I made a typo in that post. 1993 should read 1933.
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