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#21 Postby Wthrman13 » Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:34 pm

Folks, it's not an eye. It's almost certainly circumstantial cloud structure that happens to be located near the center of circulation.
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#22 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:37 pm

Remember Bret when the recon got into it in found that 3nmi eye. :lol:
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#23 Postby otowntiger » Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:59 pm

Wthrman13 wrote:Folks, it's not an eye. It's almost certainly circumstantial cloud structure that happens to be located near the center of circulation.


I agree with you wthrman13. I think we will soon see that "feature" go away as the clouds continue to roll around. Not that this thing won't develop, but I hardly think that there is an eye. There quite possibly is a center, and a weak llc, but this thing is not that developed, yet. Also looking at the IR loop, it appears that the cloud tops have warmed for now, not cooled as the other poster indicated. Again, not that they won't cool again and fire up some more convection later, but for now, the heavy convection seems to be ebbing.
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#24 Postby mike18xx » Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:13 pm

Wthrman13 wrote:Folks, it's not an eye. It's almost certainly circumstantial cloud structure that happens to be located near the center of circulation.
It's completely surrounded by banded convection.
otowntiger wrote:I think we will soon see that "feature" go away as the clouds continue to roll around.
It may become shrouded by cirrus veiling (which can happen in strong hurricanes), but IMO it's here to stay.
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#25 Postby jax » Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:18 pm

mike18xx wrote:
Wthrman13 wrote:Folks, it's not an eye. It's almost certainly circumstantial cloud structure that happens to be located near the center of circulation.
It's completely surrounded by banded convection.
otowntiger wrote:I think we will soon see that "feature" go away as the clouds continue to roll around.
It may become shrouded by cirrus veiling (which can happen in strong hurricanes), but IMO it's here to stay.


I would not be surprised to see the "H" word uttered by the NHC
by 11pm...
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#26 Postby otowntiger » Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:36 pm

mike18xx wrote:
Wthrman13 wrote:Folks, it's not an eye. It's almost certainly circumstantial cloud structure that happens to be located near the center of circulation.
It's completely surrounded by banded convection.
otowntiger wrote:I think we will soon see that "feature" go away as the clouds continue to roll around.
It may become shrouded by cirrus veiling (which can happen in strong hurricanes), but IMO it's here to stay.


I guess we shall see. I'm familiar with the eye being shrouded by high cirrus clouds, but that is not a sign of strong or strengthening hurricane. Of course this system may very well be a t.s, but a strong hurricane its not.
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#27 Postby Wthrman13 » Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:03 pm

mike18xx wrote:
Wthrman13 wrote:Folks, it's not an eye. It's almost certainly circumstantial cloud structure that happens to be located near the center of circulation.
It's completely surrounded by banded convection.
otowntiger wrote:I think we will soon see that "feature" go away as the clouds continue to roll around.
It may become shrouded by cirrus veiling (which can happen in strong hurricanes), but IMO it's here to stay.


Well, if it is an eye, it's an uncommon thing. The problem is folks tend to point out any break in the convection near the center of circulation as a developing or incipient eye, when it really is just that, a break in the convection near the center. An eye implies much more than that.
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#28 Postby gkrangers » Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:07 pm

jax wrote:
mike18xx wrote:
Wthrman13 wrote:Folks, it's not an eye. It's almost certainly circumstantial cloud structure that happens to be located near the center of circulation.
It's completely surrounded by banded convection.
otowntiger wrote:I think we will soon see that "feature" go away as the clouds continue to roll around.
It may become shrouded by cirrus veiling (which can happen in strong hurricanes), but IMO it's here to stay.


I would not be surprised to see the "H" word uttered by the NHC
by 11pm...
:Pick: :fools:
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#29 Postby Pebbles » Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:27 pm

I don't think we will see the H word by the NHC.. if you look at this
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html
you will see the Carrib system is interfering with development.
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#30 Postby Rainband » Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:52 pm

Pebbles wrote:I don't think we will see the H word by the NHC.. if you look at this
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html
you will see the Carrib system is interfering with development.
that sounds familiar :lol:
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#31 Postby Pebbles » Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:57 pm

Rainband wrote:
Pebbles wrote:I don't think we will see the H word by the NHC.. if you look at this
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html
you will see the Carrib system is interfering with development.
that sounds familiar :lol:


Did someone already say that? LOL sorry if I am repeating what other's are saying.. playing catch-up right now as i've been outside almost all day. :D
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#32 Postby Rainband » Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:58 pm

Pebbles wrote:
Rainband wrote:
Pebbles wrote:I don't think we will see the H word by the NHC.. if you look at this
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html
you will see the Carrib system is interfering with development.
that sounds familiar :lol:


Did someone already say that? LOL sorry if I am repeating what other's are saying.. playing catch-up right now as i've been outside almost all day. :D
Me pebs in other threads. No probs *HUGGERS* :P as you would say :P
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#33 Postby Pebbles » Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:34 pm

Rainband wrote:
Pebbles wrote:
Rainband wrote:
Pebbles wrote:I don't think we will see the H word by the NHC.. if you look at this
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html
you will see the Carrib system is interfering with development.
that sounds familiar :lol:


Did someone already say that? LOL sorry if I am repeating what other's are saying.. playing catch-up right now as i've been outside almost all day. :D
Me pebs in other threads. No probs *HUGGERS* :P as you would say :P


OH LOL kk... see great minds think alike :) and *HUGGERS*
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#34 Postby Rainband » Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:44 pm

Guess not it strengthened lol :lol: I guess from what I hear visible is more accurate with weak systems. :P
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#35 Postby johngaltfla » Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:52 pm

DoctorHurricane2003 wrote:no this is not the 1935 FL Keys Hurricane again......I know what some of you are thinking:

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If it does become that way, I promise I will eat all of the pillows in my house.

Conditions just aren't favorable enough....*maybe* at most....a moderate tropical storm at 5 (~50 MPH)


Do you use Crystal or Tobasco with a feather pillow? Or if it's a foam pillow do you use ketchup?

I wouldn't wager anything based no this season. No sir, no way, no how.
:eek: :eek:
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#36 Postby Brent » Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:55 pm

DoctorHurricane2003 wrote:no this is not the 1935 FL Keys Hurricane again......I know what some of you are thinking:

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If it does become that way, I promise I will eat all of the pillows in my house.

Conditions just aren't favorable enough....*maybe* at most....a moderate tropical storm at 5 (~50 MPH)


:crazyeyes: :shocked!:

I think Florida would permanetely evacuate. :lol:
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#37 Postby Pebbles » Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:14 pm

Rainband wrote:Guess not it strengthened lol :lol: I guess from what I hear visible is more accurate with weak systems. :P


It may have strenthened a tad... but the carrib system is still effecting it.. i still don't expect to hear the H word at 11..... I don't know where people get that you couldn't see where visible sat loops make any difference.. it very clear on this that there is an effect.. sat's can't lie :)

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html
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