Future Franklin & Gert?

[Stormcenter]

Invest 99L and the SW Carribean look interesting this Wednesday evening.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html

[ROCK]

Invest 99L and the SW Carribean look interesting this Wednesday evening.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html

SW carib does look promising. NWS/ AFD thought it was worth mentioning today.

[stormie_skies]

Oh good Lord, don't tell me we are gonna have TWINS!!!

[WeatherEmperor]

If keyword if that happens with Frankie and Gert forming, then I am realllllly curious as to how Dr.Gray will update his season forecast come Aug1st(or somewhere around that date).

<RICKY>

[stormandan28]

If 90l developes it will probably stay east of Florida what developes if anything in the southwest Caribbean may get drawn to the north

[kevin]

The models show landfall in Florida. What makes you think the guidance is wrong?

[stormandan28]

look at the satellite it already has a northerly motion and the high is weaker on the west side.

[Ivanhater]

its not going north, the clouds are being sheared to the north, there is no low yet, so staying away from florida is not a safe bet

[Astro_man92]

Quesion: lets say that we do have "twin" hurricanes what would happen if they both became a Cat. 1 and one ran into the other???

i've been wondering that for a long time now. and it seemed that it was the right time and place to ask this question

oh ya one more question: Is it possible for a hurricane to "split" not neccesarily down the middle but if that where to happen early enough and the first one was developed enough would it be possible for the "twin" to develope in to at least a tropical storm???

I would really apreciate it if some one would awsner both of these with at least a yes or no awsner

I'd be even more greatfull if some one could give an explanation

[GalvestonDuck]

Quesion: lets say that we do have "twin" hurricanes what would happen if they both became a Cat. 1 and one ran into the other???

i've been wondering that for a long time now. and it seemed that it was the right time and place to ask this question

oh ya one more question: Is it possible for a hurricane to "split" not neccesarily down the middle but if that where to happen early enough and the first one was developed enough would it be possible for the "twin" to develope in to at least a tropical storm???

I would really apreciate it if some one would awsner both of these with at least a yes or no awsner

I'd be even more greatfull if some one could give an explanation

Someone else with more expertise will probably need to come along and explain it all from a scientific point of view. But if you read up on the Fujiwhara Effect, you might find a few answers to your questions.

[Downdraft]

Hurricanes don't merge. What would happen is called the "Fugiwara effect." Two tropical cyclones will actually revolve around each other at a distance. While this is very rare in the Atlantic basin it happens quite often in the far Pacific with typhoons. Because of the inherit motion of tropical cyclones once they have become organized at hurricane strength it's impossible for them to merge. Hope this answers your question.

[Astro_man92]

yes it does but if a hurricane can't do it what about a tropical deppession or a tropical storm?

sorry but i'm on a quest for knowledge i like ot know these things just in case some nut head like me asks

sorry if i'm frustrating any one

[Downdraft]

Tropical cyclones do not merge. This might be better referred to one of our professional mets but it is my understanding that once you have a closed low it won't happen. It is possible however for a stronger system, say a hurricane, to rob the energy necessary for a depression to form or develop further. As with most things in nature the strong survive the weak fall by the wayside.

[Astro_man92]

Tropical cyclones do not merge. This might be better referred to one of our professional mets but it is my understanding that once you have a closed low it won't happen. It is possible however for a stronger system, say a hurricane, to rob the energy necessary for a depression to form or develop further. As with most things in nature the strong survive the weak fall by the wayside.

k thank you i have no furthor questions. i can undersand it now. thank you again

[abajan]

The last TWD also mentioned an impressive wave out by Africa. It's presently in an hostile enviroment but conditions may become more favorable down the road.

[Skywatch_NC]

Quesion: lets say that we do have "twin" hurricanes what would happen if they both became a Cat. 1 and one ran into the other???

i've been wondering that for a long time now. and it seemed that it was the right time and place to ask this question

oh ya one more question: Is it possible for a hurricane to "split" not neccesarily down the middle but if that where to happen early enough and the first one was developed enough would it be possible for the "twin" to develope in to at least a tropical storm???

I would really apreciate it if some one would awsner both of these with at least a yes or no awsner

I'd be even more greatfull if some one could give an explanation

Someone else with more expertise will probably need to come along and explain it all from a scientific point of view. But if you read up on the Fujiwhara Effect, you might find a few answers to your questions.

Should say...The Saffirara! Katie goofed

[HouTXmetro]

Does anyone think an invest will go up for the SW carribean anytime soon?

[Stormcenter]

Does anyone think an invest will go up for the SW carribean anytime soon?

If it persists through tomorrow I think there will be.

[HouTXmetro]

Does anyone think an invest will go up for the SW carribean anytime soon?

If it persists through tomorrow I think there will be.

Iv'e noticed that area for the past couple of days. I just don't see how it can develop with it's close proximity to land and with 90L nearby.

[senorpepr]

Here's a quick definition on the Fujiwara Effect: The complex movement of multiple typhoons because of interaction (interference) among them is called "Fujiwara Effect." It is known to work when distance between typhoons is less than or around 1000km. The name "Fujiwara Effect" is named after a Japanese meteorologist of that name who first noticed this effect. http://agora.ex.nii.ac.jp/digital-typhoon/reference/fujiwara/200409-200411.wmv

Now, systems can be absored into one another, but it's not as easy as it sounds. These cannot be achieved with two cyclones of the same or near the same strength. However, if one cyclone is significantly stronger than the other, the atmospheric conditions of the stronger system will "shear" away the weaker system until it nearly dissipates. The remnant system will then be drawn into the larger cyclone in a Fujiwara-like matter.

As for spliting systems, tropical storms and hurricane don't split unless something dramatic happens. In that case, the main system would likely weaken dramatically. Regardless, tropical waves have been known to split in which both portions have gone on to form depressions.