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#81 Postby Air Force Met » Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:36 pm

tailgater wrote:Thanx I kinda feel stupid that I didn't realize some of those points but I'll ask one more this LND region, where is at 500 mb 850 mb or does it vary?


It varies. Some people say 600mb (which is what I was taught in school)...some say 550...and in the tropics it might be the 400mb. This is usally the reason I look at the 400mb level when trying to figure out the general steering flow for major storms.
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#82 Postby tailgater » Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:49 pm

Thanx again, lots more questions about steering but I'll wait till a calmer time ( there is a CAT 3 in your region) to ask those.
Any idea why the slowing steering currents( land
interaction)? :hmm:
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#83 Postby Air Force Met » Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:22 pm

tailgater wrote:Thanx again, lots more questions about steering but I'll wait till a calmer time ( there is a CAT 3 in your region) to ask those.
Any idea why the slowing steering currents( land
interaction)? :hmm:
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...Because she's a woman? :lol:

May be some kind of intereaction with the outflow from Eugene...could have been something else...not real sure.
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#84 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:24 pm

I dont know why it stalled, but this is bad for Northern Mexico and deep south Texas
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#85 Postby Swimdude » Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:30 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:I dont know why it stalled, but this is bad for Northern Mexico and deep south Texas



Hasn't stalled... Just slowed to an irritatingly slow speed. 8-)
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#86 Postby Swimdude » Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:31 pm

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#87 Postby Astro_man92 » Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:35 am

tracker6 :grrr: :raincloud: wrote:
6rekcart wrote:
Swimdude wrote:Image
nice pic man 8-) 8-) 8-)
ya man nice pic man

nice picture swimdude 8-) :lol: 8-) :think:
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#88 Postby Big-Iguana » Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:27 am

If your like doppler with a relief map background,
check out this eye candly of Emily (real time):

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/bro_long.html
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#89 Postby soonertwister » Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:40 am

I'm curious as to why NHC thinks Emily will be dissipated in 36 hours.

Gilbert, a hurricane of similar strength, although larger in size, did not dissipate until he reached Lake Michigan between Illinois and Michigan.

In his land traverse from landfall in nearly the same area, he killed hundreds in the Monterrey, Mexico area, and caused many tornadoes over Texas and Oklahoma, with an estimated 30-50 million dollars in tornado damage in Oklahoma alone.

Is it the time of year? I find it hard to believe that a hurricane this strong would not still be a depression in 36 hours.

NHC sees dissipation near Monterrey, a metropolitan area of about 3.7 million people, which is slightly smaller than Seattle metro, and slightly larger than Montreal metro. I worry about those people, because it's been quite a while since Gilbert caused major destruction and many deaths there.
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#90 Postby Big-Iguana » Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:20 am

soonertwister wrote:I'm curious as to why NHC thinks Emily will be dissipated in 36 hours.


I am presuming you have don't have any idea about northern Mexico's geography .
The Sierra Madres are 6,000–12,000 ft of dry arid mountains and gapping barrancas.

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Those mountains and its updrafts will tear apart even the biggest hurricanes... :wink:
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#91 Postby soonertwister » Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:02 pm

Big-Iguana wrote:
soonertwister wrote:I'm curious as to why NHC thinks Emily will be dissipated in 36 hours.


I am presuming you have don't have any idea about northern Mexico's geography .
The Sierra Madres are 6,000–12,000 ft of dry arid mountains and gapping barrancas.

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Those mountains and its updrafts will tear apart even the biggest hurricanes... :wink:


They didn't tear apart Gilbert. Gilbert unleashed huge rains on Monterrey, killing hundreds of people, and continued as a tropical storm or tropical/subtropical depression all the way to the Great Lakes, causing millions of dollars of damage along the way, especially in Texas and Oklahoma.
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#92 Postby Big-Iguana » Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:59 pm

soonertwister wrote:
They didn't tear apart Gilbert. Gilbert unleashed huge rains on Monterrey, killing hundreds of people, and continued as a tropical storm or tropical/subtropical depression all the way to the Great Lakes, causing millions of dollars of damage along the way, especially in Texas and Oklahoma.


And after Gilbert came "over" the continental divide which Monterrey happens to be "East" of, Gilbert became a "tropical depression".

Now let's recall, "Those mountains and its updrafts will tear apart even the biggest hurricanes."

Since a tropical depression is not a hurricane my statement holds true, and Emily is nowhere near Gilbert's strength at landfall. Go look at some sats of Gilbert before and after the Sierra Madre mountains while your at it.

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Btw: Emily is going West under the high pressure dome over the 4-corners region and into the Sonoran desert. 120+ degree sandy deserts like to suck canes bone dry.

Now "watch and learn" what happens when Emily approaches the top of the mountains.

There might be a quiz later. It's will be about the present/ future and how to FOREcast, that's the opposite of BACKcasting. :wink:
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#93 Postby dhweather » Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:03 pm

Wow, that's an extremely similar path so far.
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#94 Postby Mattie » Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:05 pm

At this point in North Texas, after landfall in Mexico - it sure would be nice if ol' Emily would pull a Gilbert and drop the rain here . . .

And that IS WISHful thinking . . .
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