Is She Going to Reform as Small, Viscious Storm?
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Is She Going to Reform as Small, Viscious Storm?
Latest Floater Loop:
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html
Is that going to be a smaller, tighter eye?
Doesn't the swirl shape of the inner convection look better organized? As if it is accelerating towards the center?
Not referring to warmth or coldness of cloudtops here.
Its late. Anybody still up?
Zip
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html
Is that going to be a smaller, tighter eye?
Doesn't the swirl shape of the inner convection look better organized? As if it is accelerating towards the center?
Not referring to warmth or coldness of cloudtops here.
Its late. Anybody still up?
Zip
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You just can't EVER trust these things!
Here we have a very unusual situation with the second very intense July hurricane: and Emily IS strengthening, and IS about to move over very warm water in an area of very little shear...oh yeah, outflow isn't too shabby, either.
I am not try to be a fearmonger, just summarizing a few of the
more salient characteristics.
We'll know a lot more tomorrow, but for now, I do not like the looks of Emily.
Another thing...what do you make of the slowdown?
Zip
Here we have a very unusual situation with the second very intense July hurricane: and Emily IS strengthening, and IS about to move over very warm water in an area of very little shear...oh yeah, outflow isn't too shabby, either.
I am not try to be a fearmonger, just summarizing a few of the
more salient characteristics.
We'll know a lot more tomorrow, but for now, I do not like the looks of Emily.
Another thing...what do you make of the slowdown?
Zip
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Thanks...before I get all hot and bothered, I should consider whether the pressure has fallen. Maybe we'll see a wrap up before a fall.
Say, do restrengthening storms behave differently in that regard? Do the winds sometimes increase before the pressure falls for a while at least? Then does a little "extra deepening" drive another increase in winds?
Maybe someone with more experience monitoring storms might have an opinion?
Thanks,
Zip
Say, do restrengthening storms behave differently in that regard? Do the winds sometimes increase before the pressure falls for a while at least? Then does a little "extra deepening" drive another increase in winds?
Maybe someone with more experience monitoring storms might have an opinion?
Thanks,
Zip
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gkrangers
Decent convection is now wrapped pretty symmetrically around the center.
Best organization she has shown since moving off the Yucatan.
Outflow still looks somewhat restricted to the south, as the ULL still lives over the BOC.
The last recon eye pass yielded an extrapolated 984mb pressure. So no drop yet. I do expect some modest strengthening over night, since the upper level environment is favorable, and she'll be moving further away from the ULL.
Best organization she has shown since moving off the Yucatan.
Outflow still looks somewhat restricted to the south, as the ULL still lives over the BOC.
The last recon eye pass yielded an extrapolated 984mb pressure. So no drop yet. I do expect some modest strengthening over night, since the upper level environment is favorable, and she'll be moving further away from the ULL.
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In the recon report thread Derek Ortt offered that the wind increase we have seen is illusory (as far as an indication of intensification goes) becuase it is due to reduced effects of friction (Friction is lower over water than land so when the storm leaves land the rebalancing of forces yields a higher wind speed).
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clfenwi wrote:In the recon report thread Derek Ortt offered that the wind increase we have seen is illusory (as far as an indication of intensification goes) becuase it is due to reduced effects of friction (Friction is lower over water than land so when the storm leaves land the rebalancing of forces yields a higher wind speed).
That makes a lot of sense.
In this thread, I mean primarily to comment on what appears to my very ameteur eyes to be a much improved visual presentation. SHe looks better to me, even if other, objective measures do not (yet?) support significant intensification.
I'm not surprised to see her getting a little bit healthier, I think we are all pretty much expecting that. I'm wondering if she still has a jones to get a LOT healthier.
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My take is that enough of the pre-landfall outer wind envelope has collapsed enough to allow a steeper pressure gradient back into the center.ALhurricane wrote:Emily is definitely taking advantage of the nighttime convective maximum.
I expect that meso-burst of convection to begin orbitting faster and faster scouring out a new true eye. Then, if parallels to some other intensifying storms hold true, the meso will disappear before noon tomorrow, tops will warm somewhat, then after a lull of a few hours, the entire eyewall ring will fire simultaneously, initiating a rapid intensification cycle up into the cat-3/4 range.
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mike18xx wrote:My take is that enough of the pre-landfall outer wind envelope has collapsed enough to allow a steeper pressure gradient back into the center.ALhurricane wrote:Emily is definitely taking advantage of the nighttime convective maximum.
I expect that meso-burst of convection to begin orbitting faster and faster scouring out a new true eye. Then, if parallels to some other intensifying storms hold true, the meso will disappear before noon tomorrow, tops will warm somewhat, then after a lull of a few hours, the entire eyewall ring will fire simultaneously, initiating a rapid intensification cycle up into the cat-3/4 range.
Sounds like your scenario could take place. Already in the process. Can you think of another storm (by name )which intensified in this way? Late night inquiring minds need to know. LOL
Zip
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gkrangers wrote:Like ERC, the term "bombing" is overused.
Bombing is reserved for when the pressure falls very rapidly and winds increase very rapidly.
Yeah, the convective tops over the northeast side have gotten colder.
Just my opinion on the matter.
I think that with the next recon, you will find that "bombing" is the correct term. There is no way that a storm can go from the sat signature it had 12 hours ago to the sat signature it has now without significant strengthening.
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