Black cloud ~ Hurricane books

Amanzi · #1 Postby **Amanzi** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:07 pm

I just finished reading the book Black cloud by Eliot Kleinberg. It is about the great Florida Hurricane of 1928. WOW... what an amazing book. I highly reccomended it to anyone who loves the tropics!

Scorpion · #2 Postby **Scorpion** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:08 pm

Sounds like an interesting read. Gotta check it out at the library.

Amanzi · #3 Postby **Amanzi** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:12 pm

Especially if you live in the Boca Raton, West Palm area. This book is really eye-opening. Just made me really greatfull for the NHC and evacuation orders! In 2003 the NHC raised the death toll from this 1928 storm from 1,836 to 2,500!!! Very scary numbers.

The Big Dog · #4 Postby **The Big Dog** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:53 pm

Amanzi wrote:In 2003 the NHC raised the death toll from this 1928 storm from 1,836 to 2,500!!! Very scary numbers.

And that's probably conservative. I've heard closer to 3,000.

#5 Postby **dgparent** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:54 pm

They had a Storm Stories episode on TWC about it a couple of weeks ago, looked pretty nasty.

#6 Postby **sweetpea** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:17 pm

Amanzi wrote:Especially if you live in the Boca Raton, West Palm area. This book is really eye-opening. Just made me really greatfull for the NHC and evacuation orders! In 2003 the NHC raised the death toll from this 1928 storm from 1,836 to 2,500!!! Very scary numbers.

Sounds interesting will have to check it out of the library. I notice we are from the same town. Done often meet other people on line from Palm Coast.

hurricanefloyd5 · #7 Postby **hurricanefloyd5** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:19 pm

The Big Dog wrote:
Amanzi wrote:In 2003 the NHC raised the death toll from this 1928 storm from 1,836 to 2,500!!! Very scary numbers.

And that's probably conservative. I've heard closer to 3,000.

more like 4,000 is what i heard

#8 Postby **jlauderdal** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:58 pm

Amanzi wrote:Especially if you live in the Boca Raton, West Palm area. This book is really eye-opening. Just made me really greatfull for the NHC and evacuation orders! In 2003 the NHC raised the death toll from this 1928 storm from 1,836 to 2,500!!! Very scary numbers.

Do tell how they raised figures like that from an event 75 years ago.

clfenwi · #9 Postby **clfenwi** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:06 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
Amanzi wrote:Especially if you live in the Boca Raton, West Palm area. This book is really eye-opening. Just made me really greatfull for the NHC and evacuation orders! In 2003 the NHC raised the death toll from this 1928 storm from 1,836 to 2,500!!! Very scary numbers.

Do tell how they raised figures like that from an event 75 years ago.

See

http://www.sptimes.com/2003/05/09/State ... _tol.shtml

and also a thread about this storm on this board a few weeks ago...IIRC someone discussed the historians' argument for the official death toll to be higher

BLHutch · #10 Postby **BLHutch** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:10 pm

I can't speak as to the 1928 storm, but there are quite a few that believe the total number of dead from the 1900 Galveston Storm is more than 6,000. (anywhere from 8-10K)

I am not a meteorologist, but I am a trained historian. Therefore I can speak with some authority on how they "might" have done that. As for the Galveston Storm....I wish it had a different name. It did not just hit Galveston. It wiped out communities along Galveston Bay and hammered Houston as well. It is pretty clear that thousands died on the island, but little is said about the casualties on the mainland.....of which there were many. Also, you have to consider that the black population in Galveston suffered terribly as well, but it was difficult to account for exactly how many of them were killed.

You see the same thing in this storm. It hit the black migrant worker communities very hard, but at the same time, due to the transient nature of migrant workers in 1928 (or now for that matter), it is difficult to pinpoint exactly how many people died. It is possible that the revised death toll reflects the approximate number of deaths from that community.

Bottom line is, we'll never know for sure. My research and my gut tells me that in 1900, the Houston/Galveston area probably lost between 8 and 10 thousand, not 6. Maybe those who have examined the historical record in regards to the 1928 storm feel the same about raising that death toll. But still, we'll never know for sure.

clfenwi · #11 Postby **clfenwi** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:13 pm

http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic ... light=1928

was the thread I was thinking of. My memory of someone discussing the historians argument was faulty. Nevertheless, there are worthwhile links there...

BLHutch · #12 Postby **BLHutch** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:38 pm

Thanks for the links Clf. Very interesting.

Brady

#13 Postby **dixiebreeze** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:52 pm

Just ordered Black Cloud from Amazon. Thanks, Amanzi.

#14 Postby **EDR1222** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:03 pm

Sounds like a good read. There is some good information as well on that Hurricane in "Florida's Hurricane History."

I don't have the exact figures but I would venture to say it is probably somewhere among the top 5 most intense hurricanes to affect Florida.

Amanzi · #15 Postby **Amanzi** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:11 pm

sweetpea wrote:
Amanzi wrote:Especially if you live in the Boca Raton, West Palm area. This book is really eye-opening. Just made me really greatfull for the NHC and evacuation orders! In 2003 the NHC raised the death toll from this 1928 storm from 1,836 to 2,500!!! Very scary numbers.

Sounds interesting will have to check it out of the library. I notice we are from the same town. Done often meet other people on line from Palm Coast.

LOL... well you know its such a huge town, so much action going on others just dont have time for the internet, what with all the social events going on in good ol PC.. :roll:

BLHutch, thanks for the insight.

#16 Postby **Terry** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:24 pm

Ordering it now from Amazon. Thanks, Amanzi!

I also enjoyed Sudden Sea : The Great Hurricane of 1938
by R.A. Scotti ( the hurricane that hit Jamestown, RI).

Amanzi · #17 Postby **Amanzi** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 pm

Terry wrote:Ordering it now from Amazon. Thanks, Amanzi!

I also enjoyed Sudden Sea : The Great Hurricane of 1938
by R.A. Scotti ( the hurricane that hit Jamestown, RI).

I will check that out.. anyone else got any good hurricane reads?

BLHutch · #18 Postby **BLHutch** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:03 pm

Try Storm of the Century by Willie Drye. It is about the Labor Day Storm in Key West, 1935.

Brady

#19 Postby **sweetpea** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:17 pm

Amanzi wrote:
sweetpea wrote:
Amanzi wrote:Especially if you live in the Boca Raton, West Palm area. This book is really eye-opening. Just made me really greatfull for the NHC and evacuation orders! In 2003 the NHC raised the death toll from this 1928 storm from 1,836 to 2,500!!! Very scary numbers.

Sounds interesting will have to check it out of the library. I notice we are from the same town. Done often meet other people on line from Palm Coast.

LOL... well you know its such a huge town, so much action going on others just dont have time for the internet, what with all the social events going on in good ol PC..

BLHutch, thanks for the insight.

You are not kidding. Palm Coast is just a bartel of laughs. What section are you in.

Amanzi · #20 Postby **Amanzi** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:30 am

sweetpea wrote:
You are not kidding. Palm Coast is just a bartel of laughs. What section are you in.

I have a house on the intracoastal where they are building the new Marina... shhhh Im in the Hammock.... but I promise I have got all my teeth and I dont hang out at the Jiffy store! :lol:

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