Looks like Shanghai is going to get nailed by Haitang...

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#21 Postby Wnghs2007 » Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:28 pm

Scorpion wrote:I would think the opposite since it spins in the other direction.


Its spins the exact same Direction Chinas not in the Southern Hempisphere dude.
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#22 Postby senorpepr » Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:30 pm

Scorpion wrote:Never heard of a typhoon going to Shanghai.


Well, let us look at last year. Mindulle hit Shanghai, granted it was TS status at the time. Typhoon Rananim hit just on the south side of Shanghai. Actually, Shanghai, over the years, have been hit by several strong typhoons.
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#23 Postby margaritabeach » Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:35 pm

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#24 Postby Wnghs2007 » Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:35 pm

Scorpion wrote:Never heard of a typhoon going to Shanghai.


Here is something Interesting..

Winnie (14W), the fourth of the eleven super typhoons. Winnie was unique in that as it moved toward Okinawa, a large rain band completely encircled the eye wall cloud, producing an outer eye wall cloud with a diameter of nearly 200 nm (370 km), one of the largest ever observed. Doppler radar at Kadena AB (Okinawa) clocked winds of 100 kt (52 m/sec) in the outer eye wall cloud. Winnie later made landfall south of Shanghai, China and dissipated rapidly. Torrential rains associated with Winnie caused considerable death and destruction in China.
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#25 Postby Gorky » Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:42 pm

This certainly isn't going to hit Shanghai at 120kt if it follows this path. I think a few of you don't realise the scale of the map here. There is a particularly mountainous peninsula it's going to have to cross for quite some time before it gets into Yangtze River Delta, and then it's still quite a bit inland before it would reach Shanghai itself. It's almost akin to saying somewhere like Dallas could be hit by a Cat 5 storm. All this based on extrapolating the 5 day path to a 6th day to claim that it will go over Shanghai is a little bit extreme to be honest :P The storm will have to hit from a more NW path if is to avoid land interaction, and even then, shallow waters off the Yangtze Delta and the 30N+ lattitude should make this difficult to keep a storm at this intensity as its outer band are interacting with land. I could see it being more of a problem for Dinghai or Shenjiamen on the islands to the south of Delta as they seem a little exposed, but Shanghai has a lot of protection from storms coming in at the angle predicted.
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#26 Postby Scorpion » Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:04 pm

Yes Gorky thats what I was trying to imply :D .
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#27 Postby senorpepr » Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:42 pm

Gorky wrote:This certainly isn't going to hit Shanghai at 120kt if it follows this path. I think a few of you don't realise the scale of the map here. There is a particularly mountainous peninsula it's going to have to cross for quite some time before it gets into Yangtze River Delta, and then it's still quite a bit inland before it would reach Shanghai itself. It's almost akin to saying somewhere like Dallas could be hit by a Cat 5 storm. All this based on extrapolating the 5 day path to a 6th day to claim that it will go over Shanghai is a little bit extreme to be honest :P The storm will have to hit from a more NW path if is to avoid land interaction, and even then, shallow waters off the Yangtze Delta and the 30N+ lattitude should make this difficult to keep a storm at this intensity as its outer band are interacting with land. I could see it being more of a problem for Dinghai or Shenjiamen on the islands to the south of Delta as they seem a little exposed, but Shanghai has a lot of protection from storms coming in at the angle predicted.
Okay, although I'm not debating whether Haitang will strike Shanghai (the 120hr forecast is subject to great error), I must comment on this however: to compare Shanghai to Dallas is a large stretch. Shanghai is a coastal city as Dallas is not. Downtown isn't that far at all to the East China Sea. Now, as for a system tracking NW, yes, coastal mountains (I wouldn't say peninsula at all since there isn't a landmass really sticking out) would offer some protection, but a W moving storm could pose a serious threat. Any addition, with the storm tracking at 17kt, the mountains aren't that significant (roughly 3000-4000ft) to really protect a coastal city from a storm moving at that forward speed.
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