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#21 Postby Guest » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:08 pm

You shouldn't assume his theory wouldn't have any effect. He is a scientist at MIT, I think he knows what he is talking about.
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#22 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:09 pm

IWS2K5 wrote:You shouldn't assume his theory wouldn't have any effect. He is a scientist at MIT, I think he knows what he is talking about.



Is that what is allowed at MIT these days. How sad :x
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#23 Postby Swimdude » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:12 pm

I read that article this morning as well. *Sigh*

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#24 Postby Guest » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:17 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:
IWS2K5 wrote:You shouldn't assume his theory wouldn't have any effect. He is a scientist at MIT, I think he knows what he is talking about.



Is that what is allowed at MIT these days. How sad :x


What are your credentials to say his plan won't do anything to the hurricane.
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#25 Postby caribepr » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:45 pm

I told David the PO guy today, while mailing a package to my daughter that if I didn't mail it (from where it has sat in my back seat for a week), Emily would come here, rip off the top of my car, drench the package and ruin the contents. Therefore, if I mailed it, Emily would not come here. That made sense to him. And reading the above, it makes even more sense to me now :D
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#26 Postby vbhoutex » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:11 pm

IWS2K5 wrote:
Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:
IWS2K5 wrote:You shouldn't assume his theory wouldn't have any effect. He is a scientist at MIT, I think he knows what he is talking about.



Is that what is allowed at MIT these days. How sad :x


What are your credentials to say his plan won't do anything to the hurricane.


What are yours?
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#27 Postby Guest » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:27 pm

vbhoutex wrote:
IWS2K5 wrote:
Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:
IWS2K5 wrote:You shouldn't assume his theory wouldn't have any effect. He is a scientist at MIT, I think he knows what he is talking about.



Is that what is allowed at MIT these days. How sad :x


What are your credentials to say his plan won't do anything to the hurricane.


What are yours?


I didn't say if it would or wouldn't work.

I am not the one claiming I know more then researchers and experts in the field like most people here are.
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#28 Postby crazycajuncane » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:39 pm

IWS2K5 wrote:
vbhoutex wrote:
IWS2K5 wrote:
Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:
IWS2K5 wrote:You shouldn't assume his theory wouldn't have any effect. He is a scientist at MIT, I think he knows what he is talking about.



Is that what is allowed at MIT these days. How sad :x


What are your credentials to say his plan won't do anything to the hurricane.


What are yours?


I didn't say if it would or wouldn't work.

I am not the one claiming I know more then researchers and experts in the field like most people here are.


The main point is that Mother Nature should not be messed with. There are reasons for earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes and get this.... RAIN!

We can't go around trying to fight off mother nature. We'll lose the rain, winds, oxygen... we're dead! :layout:
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#29 Postby caribepr » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:57 pm

Crazycajuncane! You rock, that is exactly what is most important!
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#30 Postby donsutherland1 » Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:01 pm

The amount of energy required to run even a modest tropical storm is magnitudes of order greater than what could be provided by jet engines. I don't believe this hypothesis will get very far in terms of demonstrating viability.
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#31 Postby EDR1222 » Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:03 pm

It sure gets tiresome reading about people that want to mess with the balance of nature.


I remember a long time ago listening to Dr. Neil Frank discuss hurricanes when he was Director at the National Hurricane Center. He made some interesting points about the storms and the need for them. They often bring beneficial rains to areas that wouldn't get enough rain without them. Also the energy from the sun needs to be released.

Another interesting point he made was that we should all be thankful we have the hurricane, because they only use a very small percentage of the energy that is available to them, and that we could have something much worse.

I am not a scientist and don't have a complete understanding of what all this means, but it sure seems like nature knows how to take care itself, which means it should be left alone!
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#32 Postby kevin » Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:03 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:
IWS2K5 wrote:You shouldn't assume his theory wouldn't have any effect. He is a scientist at MIT, I think he knows what he is talking about.



Is that what is allowed at MIT these days. How sad :x


I'm sure he doesn't care what you think of his education. People should never dismiss outhand what is not analyzed based on conventional wisdom. Ever.
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#33 Postby dougjp » Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:04 pm

Too funny! Well, well Moshe, after some money are we?

I'm no expert but I did watch a W. C. Fields movie last night. :P The photoshop possibilities are endless! So far I got a photo of a barge, a jet engine, and one of W. C. Fields yelling "It Cures Horseness!" at the carnival too!

I wonder how jet engines do injesting sea air and the odd splash of sea water as a steady diet? I wonder what happens to the barge when its hit by a wave broadside while the jet is cranked up full? I wonder if a small plane flew overhead at, say, 5,000 ft., would it notice any air flow difference at all?

Personally I prefer the one with hundreds of icemakers on hundreds of barges myself :wink:
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#34 Postby Cape Verde » Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:27 pm

The Houston Chronicle is pretty much a joke newspaper in most regards. They do cover NASA and space-related stuff well, probably the best in the nation, but they are really awful otherwise.<P>I won't even address their politics, but you can guess.
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#35 Postby Skywatch_NC » Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:33 pm

There was a commercial several years ago that had the line if I recall in so many words something like..." Don't ever mess with Mother Nature!" :eek:
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#36 Postby drudd1 » Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:57 pm

IWS2K5 wrote:You shouldn't assume his theory wouldn't have any effect. He is a scientist at MIT, I think he knows what he is talking about.


We have eccentrics in every walk of life. They come in all shapes and sizes, and a high IQ coupled with MIT does not make this guy credible. In fact, many off-the-wall eccentric people have high IQs, but very few manage to accomplish much with it.
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#37 Postby patsmsg » Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:06 pm

HurryKane wrote:Hey, here's an idea:

How about we throw every coast dweller on a few cruise ships and park 'em right in front of a hurricane. Make everybody eat 50 cans of beans each and lay on our stomachs on the deck. Then we'll all fart it to death.


I believe in the power of gas.


Hmmm...I say we launch an immediate investigation into MS Storm Magnet's diet. There may be something to this.
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#38 Postby Guest » Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:45 pm

drudd1 wrote:
IWS2K5 wrote:You shouldn't assume his theory wouldn't have any effect. He is a scientist at MIT, I think he knows what he is talking about.


We have eccentrics in every walk of life. They come in all shapes and sizes, and a high IQ coupled with MIT does not make this guy credible. In fact, many off-the-wall eccentric people have high IQs, but very few manage to accomplish much with it.


He is a very accomplished scientist at MIT. Believe me he knows what he is talking about. People like you who just dismiss what he says are the same type of people who say there is no evidence that humans are the cause of the global warming.
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#39 Postby Skywatch_NC » Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:48 pm

Big difference though between global warming...and old jet engines trying to thwart a tropical system (so to say).
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#40 Postby vbhoutex » Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:51 pm

IWS2K5 wrote:
vbhoutex wrote:
IWS2K5 wrote:
Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:
IWS2K5 wrote:You shouldn't assume his theory wouldn't have any effect. He is a scientist at MIT, I think he knows what he is talking about.



Is that what is allowed at MIT these days. How sad :x


What are your credentials to say his plan won't do anything to the hurricane.


What are yours?


I didn't say if it would or wouldn't work.

I am not the one claiming I know more then researchers and experts in the field like most people here are.


I don't see anyone claiming they know more than researchers or scientists. I see some questioning what IMHO is a somewhat bizzare and unsubstantiated claim at this point, as we well should. As much as I advocate and bellieve in "thinking outside the box" Don Sutherland hit it on the head with his post. Ain't gonna happen, and what part of DON'T FOOL WITH MOTHER NATUREdo these people not understand?
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