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Worse possible scenario setting up...

#1 Postby NewOrleans » Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:00 pm

with a rapidly intensifying hurricane, while approaching a coastline. It is called momentum. A storm that has peaked, level, or is in decline is not nearly as bad. TS Cindy was exactly this way, as she came ashore. She was intensifying as she was making landfall, and was much more of a problem then was anticipated, from a mere tropical storm.

The same thing happened with Camille in 1969, as she approached the coast. She was deepening all the way into the coast and her destructive forces were compounded by the momentum she was developing.

Think of a snowball going down hill, as it picks up more mass.
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#2 Postby TPACane04 » Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:05 pm

excellent thoughts...this is compunded by the potential differences a landfall of 25-50 miles one way or the other.

examples... landfall just west of Mobile Bay is disaster for Mobile...and perhaps even Pensacola. A landfall similar to Ivan bails out Mobile a bit, but rocks Pensacola and FWB.

at this point, only a straight N shot away from Pensacola/Mobile/MS area is the only good thing that can happen...the further west it tracks, the worse we will see happen Sunday.
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#3 Postby skysummit » Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:10 pm

Well, according to FOX8 in the last 5 minutes, SE La. will have 15-25mph winds at most. St Bernard and Plaquemines a little higher. They also said the Miss. Gulf Coast will have 25-35mph winds. The way it looks to me is if Dennis doesn't begin to turn, landfall will be in Mississippi. I believe their winds will be a tad higher than 25-35 :roll:
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#4 Postby BigO » Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:13 pm

All of the local mets are saying the same thing. I sure hope this isn't wrong.
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#5 Postby HollynLA » Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:18 pm

Didn't they say that for Cindy? Were your winds 25 mph?
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#6 Postby BigO » Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:29 pm

I honestly don't know what Cindy's winds were...I slept through it.
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#7 Postby Brent » Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:34 pm

BigO wrote:I honestly don't know what Cindy's winds were...I slept through it.


Worse than expected.

Hope it isn't the same for Dennis.
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#8 Postby skysummit » Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:35 pm

We weren't supposed to get hardly any winds, but New Orleans was gusting to hurricane strength.
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#9 Postby tdess02 » Sat Jul 09, 2005 6:17 pm

The local mets in New Orleans, except WWL-TV, are a joke. Especially Bob Breck and FOX-8. They did not even tell people to pick up things around the house. My neigbors all put the garbage out on the street the night of Cindy approaching. Fox-8 downpalyed Cindy and said we would probably not see much effects at all in New Orleans. They said we would get less than .5 of rain
and winds of maybe 25-30 mph. When Cindy was done, we had over 6 inches of rain and winds over 70 mph. There are still some homes witout power down here. This kind of bad reporting happens every year and I have learned to only follow the NHC for official information on Hurricanes and Tropical Storms.
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#10 Postby Swimdude » Sat Jul 09, 2005 6:28 pm

BigO wrote:I honestly don't know what Cindy's winds were...I slept through it.



Hahaha wow, THIS, my friends, is a deep sleeper!
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#11 Postby duris » Sat Jul 09, 2005 6:33 pm

Swimdude wrote:
BigO wrote:I honestly don't know what Cindy's winds were...I slept through it.



Hahaha wow, THIS, my friends, is a deep sleeper!


All I know is, it must have been bad, because my wife's snoring didn't wake me up that night.
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#12 Postby BigO » Sat Jul 09, 2005 6:35 pm

Swimdude wrote:
BigO wrote:I honestly don't know what Cindy's winds were...I slept through it.



Hahaha wow, THIS, my friends, is a deep sleeper!


Not really...I just happened to have been a tad squiffy, having raided the good single-barrel bourbon that night. It was just picking up at midnight when I went to bed and was pretty much over when I woke up at 4.
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#13 Postby cajungal » Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:43 pm

Swimdude wrote:
BigO wrote:I honestly don't know what Cindy's winds were...I slept through it.



Hahaha wow, THIS, my friends, is a deep sleeper!

Well, my dad slept through Andrew right next to a huge window in our living room (boarded of course) And the winds were gusting to over 100 mph here. He was snoring and everything.
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#14 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:46 pm

I think the worse possible scenario would be if Dennis strikes a little west of New Orleans, not expected by the way. That would be a real catastrophe that is waiting to happen anytime.
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#15 Postby cajungal » Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:51 pm

At least our meterologists and the NHC are very skilled and good at what they do. We now have TV, radio, radar, etc... to warn us. Imagine if this was 1900, like in Galveston, when those poor souls did not have a clue what was coming there way? And the poor souls lost in Audrey.
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#16 Postby NC George » Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:07 pm

BigO wrote:I honestly don't know what Cindy's winds were...I slept through it.


I slept through the worst of Fran here. Power was out, nothing to do, it was night, low pressure, fell asleep. Woke up every now then to branches breaking, but went right back to sleep.
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#17 Postby JenyEliza » Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:32 pm

tdess02 wrote:The local mets in New Orleans, except WWL-TV, are a joke. Especially Bob Breck and FOX-8. They did not even tell people to pick up things around the house. My neigbors all put the garbage out on the street the night of Cindy approaching. Fox-8 downpalyed Cindy and said we would probably not see much effects at all in New Orleans. They said we would get less than .5 of rain
and winds of maybe 25-30 mph. When Cindy was done, we had over 6 inches of rain and winds over 70 mph. There are still some homes witout power down here. This kind of bad reporting happens every year and I have learned to only follow the NHC for official information on Hurricanes and Tropical Storms.


Same happened in Atlanta for Ivan. :(
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#18 Postby LAwxrgal » Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:36 pm

WHEREVER this thing goes in, there is the potential for a catastrophe. :cry:
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#19 Postby HurryKane » Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:37 pm

LAwxrgal wrote:WHEREVER this thing goes in, there is the potential for a catastrophe. :cry:


Agreed.
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#20 Postby Steve » Sun Jul 10, 2005 12:19 am

I was hanging out with a friend of mine with conference call credentials tonight. We were laughing that if for some (whatever 10-15% chance we have) remote reason New Orleans got blasted, it would be a nightmare squared. We basically cast our lots yesterday. Looks like we rolled a 6 or an 8. Had the storm veered westward, the city would be beyond unprepared.

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