Solid NW movement may come to an end soon

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#41 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:35 pm

ok i know its not just my eyes, i think its moved back wnw
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#42 Postby dwg71 » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:36 pm

Its still heading 315....
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#43 Postby Scorpion » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:36 pm

This looks like it is moving WNW??? Can I have some of what you are taking?
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Re: NW quadrant starting to flatten out?

#44 Postby margaritabeach » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:37 pm

Weatherboy1 wrote:http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/FLOAT2/IR4/20.jpg

Is it just me, or is the NW quadrant of Dennis starting to flatten out a bit on an axis oriented SW to NE. My GUESS is that this is because Dennis is getting closer and closer to that trough in the Gulf. Am I right? Wrong? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? :)

P.S. if that is the case and IF the trough hangs around longer than currently forecast, that would tend to curve Dennis earlier, in my opinion.


my uneducated guess would be the NW quad is feeling the effects of Cuba vs. the ridge.
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#45 Postby Johnny » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:39 pm

It looks like the eye is moving parallel to the Jamaican coast which would mean a WNW movement, correct?
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#46 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:41 pm

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#47 Postby dwg71 » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:42 pm

use the visable loops with the NHC points added and you can clearly see that it is heading just on or just north of their track.. ITs moving NW(315).
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Re: Solid NW movement may come to an end soon

#48 Postby Anonymous » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:42 pm

ALhurricane wrote:If you take a look at a water vapor loop..

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html

You will see the ridge sitting to the north of Dennis. See how the flow is moving straight from east to west? It is going to be hard for Dennis to continue moving due NW. Therefore I expect more of a WNW heading to commence at some point later today which will take Dennis toward the western end of Cuba (a little further west than the NHC track).


Agree.
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#49 Postby deltadog03 » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:42 pm

correct...
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#50 Postby vbhoutex » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:42 pm

Both WV and visible tell the story. Looks like it is/will be returning to a more wnw track, which will help keep it away from the highter mountains in Cuba. I look for it to cross Western Cuba, where it is flatter and begin its NW turn at that time, possibly passing right over Havana. Key West is definitely in the danger zone, but not sure how much yet. Ridge is building back in somewhat, but look for it to start retreating some when the trough is strenthened by the incoming SW form the W.
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#51 Postby Agua » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:42 pm

ivanhater wrote:ok i know its not just my eyes, i think its moved back wnw


No, I think it's your eyes. :lol:
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#52 Postby lilbump3000 » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:43 pm

It should start a WNW movement soon with that strong east to west flow over southern flordia and the SE gulf. I dont know what the models are doing at the current time they all seem to be lost.
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#53 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:44 pm

if you go to the link i posted, its moving wnw
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#54 Postby Normandy » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:44 pm

Yep, im in agreement with the wnw motion returning.
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#55 Postby Scorpion » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:45 pm

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#56 Postby dwg71 » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:45 pm

lilbump3000 wrote:It should start a WNW movement soon with that strong east to west flow over southern flordia and the SE gulf. I dont know what the models are doing at the current time they all seem to be lost.


They are not lost, they've been right on with Dennis from get go until he enters the gulf. There will be not 270 - 305 heading for any length of time. A wobble maybe, but nothing more than a few frames. Outflow to the north is not affected by ridge yet.
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#57 Postby Normandy » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:47 pm

dwg71 wrote:
lilbump3000 wrote:It should start a WNW movement soon with that strong east to west flow over southern flordia and the SE gulf. I dont know what the models are doing at the current time they all seem to be lost.


They are not lost, they've been right on with Dennis from get go until he enters the gulf. There will be not 270 - 305 heading for any length of time. A wobble maybe, but nothing more than a few frames. Outflow to the north is not affected by ridge yet.


So its just going to bust straight through that strong east to west flow and continue heading nw?
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#58 Postby deltadog03 » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:49 pm

Normandy wrote:
dwg71 wrote:
lilbump3000 wrote:It should start a WNW movement soon with that strong east to west flow over southern flordia and the SE gulf. I dont know what the models are doing at the current time they all seem to be lost.


They are not lost, they've been right on with Dennis from get go until he enters the gulf. There will be not 270 - 305 heading for any length of time. A wobble maybe, but nothing more than a few frames. Outflow to the north is not affected by ridge yet.


So its just going to bust straight through that strong east to west flow and continue heading nw?


NO it WONT!!!
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#59 Postby Steve H. » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:49 pm

Yeah, it may be back to a general WNW motion, but it seems to be slowing own a bit. Its hard to tell due to cludiness obscuring the eye from different vantage points at different times. Depending on the shape of the ridge will determine whether this wnw motion continues. Let's let the genuises at NHC tell us.
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#60 Postby Roxy » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:49 pm

I'm reading conflicting things.

Some say the ridge will hold, others say not.

What the hell is going on with the ridge?

If I had that answer I'd be pretty popular right now, yes?

:)
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