FSU headed to play Key West?

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FSU headed to play Key West?

#1 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:51 pm

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/mm5/DENNIS.track.png

Something is tugging Dennis in the FSU Ensamble..
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#2 Postby gkrangers » Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:52 pm

Movement is way too far north initially.
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#3 Postby Tallygrl » Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:53 pm

That's not the fsu superensemble-- its the mm5 -- the fsu superensemblemodel is not avalible to the public.....although they give it to the NHC
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#4 Postby nolecaster » Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:54 pm

what she said.....
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#5 Postby dwg71 » Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:55 pm

Dont let Normandy see that, he'll flip with it moving that far north of Jamaica..
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#6 Postby loon » Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:57 pm

mm5 has been north of Jamaica I thought
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#7 Postby Tallygrl » Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:57 pm

Anyone know what the fsu superensemble is showing?? I think last year there was a nice FSU met student who gave us the scoop a time or two....
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#8 Postby ericinmia » Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:58 pm

Tallygrl wrote:That's not the fsu superensemble-- its the mm5 -- the fsu superensemblemodel is not avalible to the public.....although they give it to the NHC


He didn't claim it to be, there are many enseble forecast models out there. Fsu outputs a few that are only ensemble copmilations, heck, event the gfs technically is an ensemble of all its model runs.
-Eric
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#9 Postby Derek Ortt » Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:58 pm

THATS NOT THE SUPER ENSEMBLE!

For the 1 trillionth time, its a poor version of MM5
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#10 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:03 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:THATS NOT THE SUPER ENSEMBLE!

For the 1 trillionth time, its a poor version of MM5


LOL..Dam Ortt...
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#11 Postby wxcrazytwo » Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:05 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:THATS NOT THE SUPER ENSEMBLE!

For the 1 trillionth time, its a poor version of MM5


AS I THROW FREEZING SUB ZERO ICE ON DEREK. HOW NOW BROWN COW..
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#12 Postby BreinLa » Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:07 pm

Okay Derek, breathe in then breathe out. It's gonna be a long week buddy. No need to get fussy now. Think Happy thoughts!!!!!!
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#13 Postby Dean4Storms » Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:08 pm

I believe I heard that the FSU SE was pretty much in line with what the UKMET was forecasting on two runs, 18z yesterday and 00z this morning.
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#14 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:09 pm

All I know Is for being a Crummy MM5 model it Nailed the 1st 3 storms of the season..
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#15 Postby lurkerinthemidst » Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:11 pm

Ortt - LOL - Maybe you should set up an auto response to anything that says FSU or MM5 :)

Or you are going to become a broken record. :wink:
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#16 Postby Derek Ortt » Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:11 pm

for one, the only MM5 that nailed Cindy was the UM version. It correctly insisted upon no well-defined center until it reached the NGOM. Even as all other models indicated landfall in Texas initially, UM MM5 correctly indicated a landfall new New Orleans with significant intensification near the coast. FSU was in the Texas bandwagon
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#17 Postby Rainband » Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:13 pm

seems like the models last year had a right basis this year a left basis from what I have been reading. What cause this and what can be done in the future to help them become more accurate??
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#18 Postby Canelaw99 » Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:17 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:for one, the only MM5 that nailed Cindy was the UM version. It correctly insisted upon no well-defined center until it reached the NGOM. Even as all other models indicated landfall in Texas initially, UM MM5 correctly indicated a landfall new New Orleans with significant intensification near the coast. FSU was in the Texas bandwagon



Well, that's because we all know UM is better than FSU ;)
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#19 Postby Canelaw99 » Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:18 pm

Rainband wrote:seems like the models last year had a right basis this year a left basis from what I have been reading. What cause this and what can be done in the future to help them become more accurate??


Maybe they overcorrected this year because of last year? Not sure how the models work, but there was quite a right bias, so it makes sense if the programs can be tweaked, that they had to tweak it to go more left, hence the left bias this year.....???
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#20 Postby Wthrman13 » Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:44 pm

ericinmia wrote:
Tallygrl wrote:That's not the fsu superensemble-- its the mm5 -- the fsu superensemblemodel is not avalible to the public.....although they give it to the NHC


He didn't claim it to be, there are many enseble forecast models out there. Fsu outputs a few that are only ensemble copmilations, heck, event the gfs technically is an ensemble of all its model runs.
-Eric


I replied to this in another thread. The operational GFS is NOT an ensemble compilation or average. They run a separate GFS ensemble system at NCEP that uses perturbed initial conditions. The GFS model output you see is from the deterministic (single run) operational GFS.
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