DENNIS MAJOR THREAT NEW ORLEANS to galveston

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#81 Postby Normandy » Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:45 pm

we will certainly find out. if it turns north, it will lose its favorable conditions and would pass over high mountains, which would be good


Well its expected to turn Northwestward in the GOM...
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#82 Postby Stratosphere747 » Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:51 pm

rainstorm wrote:we will certainly find out. if it turns north, it will lose its favorable conditions and would pass over high mountains, which would be good



Thanks...I guess, you don't provide any real reasoning on why those between NO and Houston/Galveston should feel "omnious"

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#83 Postby deltadog03 » Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:55 pm

I agree with the topic...I am tending to believe that it will be a somewhere near TX/LA coast...then head NW
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Current Motion..

#84 Postby Derecho » Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:55 pm

Little odd that nobody seems to be talking about there not appearing to be as much as one millimeter of motion north of due west for Dennis for hours now.....

It's been consistently running well south of the models...with the models being dragged along.

18Z GFS now has Dennis hitting Texas; you'll likely see a major left shift of the GFDL at 0Z.

It's not outside of the realm of possibility for Dennis to miss the US entirely.
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Re: Current Motion..

#85 Postby chris_fit » Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:56 pm

Derecho wrote:18Z GFS now has Dennis hitting Texas; you'll likely see a major left shift of the GFDL at 0Z.
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Shifted Right actually. :?:
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Re: Current Motion..

#86 Postby deltadog03 » Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:57 pm

Derecho wrote:Little odd that nobody seems to be talking about there not appearing to be as much as one millimeter of motion north of due west for Dennis for hours now.....

It's been consistently running well south of the models...with the models being dragged along.

18Z GFS now has Dennis hitting Texas; you'll likely see a major left shift of the GFDL at 0Z.

It's not outside of the realm of possibility for Dennis to miss the US entirely.


I agree Derecho....I have been noticing that all day...not a hint of northward movement...
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#87 Postby Opal storm » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:00 pm

It's slowed down by 4mph,expect a NW turn soon.
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Re: Current Motion..

#88 Postby Derecho » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:01 pm

chris_fit wrote:
Derecho wrote:18Z GFS now has Dennis hitting Texas; you'll likely see a major left shift of the GFDL at 0Z.
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Shifted Right actually. :?:


The GFDL shifted Right some from 12Z to 18Z; I'm talking about the future 0Z GFDL.

The GFDL uses the PREVIOUS run of the GFS as the "background"...the 0Z GFDL will use the 18Z GFS for this; the end of the track for Dennis shifted LEFT quite a lot on the 18Z GFS from the 12Z GFS, so you're almost certain to see quite a west shift on the NEXT (0Z) GFDL run.
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#89 Postby deltadog03 » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:01 pm

it might...but, they have been saying its moving WNW thats not the case...its almost due west
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#90 Postby chris_fit » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:01 pm

Opal storm wrote:It's slowed down by 4mph,expect a NW turn soon.


Not until Cindy takes a bite of that ridge.
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#91 Postby Canelaw99 » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:02 pm

It has moved north, but usually by just a tenth or so of a degree. If you compare the position in the 5pm to the 8pm advisory, it moved north .1 degree, and west .2 I believe it was.
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Re: Current Motion..

#92 Postby chris_fit » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:02 pm

Derecho wrote:
chris_fit wrote:
Derecho wrote:18Z GFS now has Dennis hitting Texas; you'll likely see a major left shift of the GFDL at 0Z.
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Shifted Right actually. :?:


The GFDL shifted Right some from 12Z to 18Z; I'm talking about the future 0Z GFDL.

The GFDL uses the PREVIOUS run of the GFS as the "background"...the 0Z GFDL will use the 18Z GFS for this; the end of the track for Dennis shifted LEFT quite a lot on the 18Z GFS from the 12Z GFS, so you're almost certain to see quite a west shift on the NEXT (0Z) GFDL run.


Cool info. thanks.
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#93 Postby deltadog03 » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:03 pm

Canelaw99 wrote:It has moved north, but usually by just a tenth or so of a degree. If you compare the position in the 5pm to the 8pm advisory, it moved north .1 degree, and west .2 I believe it was.


yeah your right...I think NHC is saying that its moving more north of that...sorry if i was not clear
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#94 Postby Derecho » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:03 pm

For a variety of actually very good reasons, NHC uses a long-term average for storm motion so they're not constantly changing the reported motion from advisory to advisory, and they're only reporting "real" turns.

It gained .1 degree of lat from 5PM to 8PM, which isn't quite due W, but it's not "full" WNW either.
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#95 Postby deltadog03 » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:04 pm

agreed
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Re: Current Motion..

#96 Postby Stratosphere747 » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:05 pm

Derecho wrote:Little odd that nobody seems to be talking about there not appearing to be as much as one millimeter of motion north of due west for Dennis for hours now.....

It's been consistently running well south of the models...with the models being dragged along.

18Z GFS now has Dennis hitting Texas; you'll likely see a major left shift of the GFDL at 0Z.

It's not outside of the realm of possibility for Dennis to miss the US entirely.


Derecho, It does seem with the latest advisory that there is some movement WNW...

I only want those in the entire GOM not to get caught up in the models and the blanket statement of some that there is a "specific" point that this may be heading...

I must admit that Dennis could be a concern for those from NO/Tx, but as we have all learned, things can change rapidly...

Scott
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#97 Postby rainstorm » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:07 pm

plenty of reason to be concerned. it looks likely to me it will pass south of jamaica, and even if it does turn nw the ridge will build back in and it will turn more west again. also, if the ridge does build back in, conditions may be close to ideal for intensification.


also, if i could i would blink my eyes and make dennis disappear.
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#98 Postby rainstorm » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:17 pm

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#99 Postby HouTXmetro » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:26 pm

rainstorm wrote:http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~arnottj/cgi-bin/avntc2.cgi?time=2005070518&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=144hr


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#100 Postby Canelaw99 » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:31 pm

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