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Unofficial TD-3 Forecast #1

#1 Postby Anonymous » Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:44 pm

The following post is NOT an official forecast and should not be used as such. It is just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by any professional institution including storm2k.org For Official Information please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

Tropical Depression Three
Monday July 4, 2005 12am Eastern
Forecast # 1
Mike Naso

Tropical Depression Three continues to look better organized, and the NHC mentions it may already be a Tropical Storm. In any case, I expect this is cross the Northeastern tip of the Yucatan, and then move on a general northwesterly then northerly track, before finally moving slighty northeast towards landfall. While I was earlier looking for a movement from the NE Yucatan tip to Texas, it appears the weakness will pull it northward, and I am now thinking towards the Southwest Louisiana coastline by Thursday morning.

The system is currently 30 kts, but may be a tropical storm as we speak. In anycase, I expect it to stay at least 25 kts across the Yucatan, and I think 30 kts across is good considering the organization, and the fact that systems have a history of not weakening dramatically, and sometimes they even intensify over the Yucatan. I expect it to move back over the Gulf of Mexico by tomorrow afternoon or evening. By tomorrow night, I think it will be a Tropical Storm.

Given the impressive upper level pattern, I expect steady intensification between 24-36 hours into a Category 1 hurricane. I believe this system will be passing over the extreme warm waters in the Western Gulf of Mexico, and having excellent upper level outflow, I fear that as the inner core of a Category 1 hurricane "Cindy" tightens at 36-48 hours, it will rapidly deepen. Due to this, I expect a Category 2 hurricane of 85 kt at landfall in Southwest Louisiana on Thursday.

* Tropical Cyclones can rapidly deepen over favorable conditions such as this. This has the potential to become a dangerous hurricane as it approaches the Gulf Coast.

12 Hours: 20.1 N/ 88.9 W - 30 kt (INLAND)
24 Hours: 21.9 N/ 90.1 W - 40 kt
36 Hours: 23.9 N/ 91.1 W - 55 kt
48 Hours: 25.8 N/ 92.0 W - 70 kt
72 Hours: 28.2 N/ 92.8 W - 80 kt
96 Hours: 31.1 N/ 92.5 W - 60 kt (INLAND)
120 Hours: 31.8 N/ 90.5 W - 30 kt (INLAND)

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#2 Postby MGC » Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:47 pm

I concur with your forecast Floydbuster. Don't think it will make Cat 2 but we shall see.....MGC
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#3 Postby skysummit » Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:49 pm

Cat 2??? Ok, that's strong enough. Evacs will still be ordered, but as long as it doesn't deepen too rapidly, I think we'll be ok. Now if drastic intensification occurs and gets to a strong Cat 2 or 3, we'll have problems.
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#4 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:52 pm

Mike, I see no reason to doubt you on this one. You have been dead on since yesterday. I am going to hold off on intensity forecasting until it emerges in the Gulf. This could be a big one for us if everything comes together. What do you think about it rapidly intensifying at landfall? As I am sure you know the last few we have had down here have done the opposite, could this deepen while making landfall?
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#5 Postby gkrangers » Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:56 pm

Sounds very reasonable Mike.

I can't argue with the track...but its just too hard to deduce right now. Once its in the gulf things will be clearer.

As far as intensity, I agree in general. Have to watch for the dry air Stewart mentions. If it plays a factor, maybe a bit weaker than your 85kts. If not, I think 80-90kts is fair.

But I think the most important forecasts will be the ones issued after the LLC has a few hours over the GOM.
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#6 Postby Anonymous » Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:57 pm

See, thats the thing. When hurricanes rapidly deepen, typically its from 80 mph to 115 mph. Not from 80 mph to 90 mph. So, my forecast is steady, not rapid.
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#7 Postby corpusbreeze » Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:58 pm

Your most likely right but I still think you should have slept on it. I wouldn't rule out a more westward track.
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#8 Postby Anonymous » Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:58 pm

corpusbreeze wrote:Your most likely right but I still think you should have slept on it. I wouldn't rule out a more westward track.


Actually, I took it a little further west than my gut was telling me
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#9 Postby gkrangers » Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:59 pm

~Floydbuster wrote:See, thats the thing. When hurricanes rapidly deepen, typically its from 80 mph to 115 mph. Not from 80 mph to 90 mph. So, my forecast is steady, not rapid.
Tell that to Chucky :D

Whens the next big NHCWX show? I'll have to tune in for landfall for sure in a few days.
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#10 Postby swimaster20 » Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:59 pm

Great analysis Mike! Your forecast, however, puts me under the gun.
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#11 Postby Anonymous » Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:59 pm

Might? I don't want to say. It could become a dangerous hurricane, I'll say that.
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#12 Postby gkrangers » Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:00 pm

swimaster20 wrote:Great analysis Mike! Your forecast, however, puts me under the gun. When you say rapidly intensify, how strong do you think it might get?
Due to this, I expect a Category 2 hurricane of 85 kt at landfall in Southwest Louisiana on Thursday. 8-)
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#13 Postby Anonymous » Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:01 pm

gkrangers wrote:
~Floydbuster wrote:See, thats the thing. When hurricanes rapidly deepen, typically its from 80 mph to 115 mph. Not from 80 mph to 90 mph. So, my forecast is steady, not rapid.
Tell that to Chucky :D

Whens the next big NHCWX show? I'll have to tune in for landfall for sure in a few days.


You can go to radio.nhcwx.com to see if any live coverage begins. I know Matt Carrier will cover it tomorrow night at 9pm Eastern.
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#14 Postby gkrangers » Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:02 pm

~Floydbuster wrote:
gkrangers wrote:
~Floydbuster wrote:See, thats the thing. When hurricanes rapidly deepen, typically its from 80 mph to 115 mph. Not from 80 mph to 90 mph. So, my forecast is steady, not rapid.
Tell that to Chucky :D

Whens the next big NHCWX show? I'll have to tune in for landfall for sure in a few days.


You can go to radio.nhcwx.com to see if any live coverage begins. I know Matt Carrier will cover it tomorrow night at 9pm Eastern.
Think Stewart might be too busy to call in this week?
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#15 Postby Anonymous » Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:11 pm

You never know...
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#16 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:22 pm

I think Mike is in the right ballpark on intensity and landfall
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#17 Postby Anonymous » Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:42 pm

We shall see
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#18 Postby Sean in New Orleans » Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:42 pm

This is the track that I think it would take, as well. I do not think this system will make it to Texas. And I'd be surprised if it came as far East as New Orleans, but, I would bank on more East than West if I had to forecast the system. I think it will go right up South-Central Louisiana and then NE to Mississippi/Alabama/Tennessee. Depending on the strength of the system (I do believe it could make it to around 80 to 85mph upon landfall), this system could spell alot of trouble with flooding rains from Lafayette, LA all the way East to Mobile, AL...this looks to be the biggest concern, IMO.
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