JB going the distance on SW Carib wave

[jax]

i have weather experience...
I know what i'm talking about...

JB makes the big bucks....

What is your weather experience? We have all been open about ours...what is your's? Are you degreed? If so...you need a tag. Do you have militaryexperience? If so...where and when? What is your experience?

In order for your argument to carry more weight...you said you have experience...and that is fine...I did the same thing. Please clarify and state your exact experience.

Thanks.

AF Met... you are being very aggresive and confontational....
no need to get hostile. 6 year degree in physical geography
with emphasis in marine forcasting from the oldest organized
greography department in the country. 2 years intern... 2 years
active duty with NATO in Europe.... what else... oh yeah... I study
business value for a living in the private sector.

[melhow]

i have weather experience...
I know what i'm talking about...

JB makes the big bucks....

What is your weather experience? We have all been open about ours...what is your's? Are you degreed? If so...you need a tag. Do you have militaryexperience? If so...where and when? What is your experience?

In order for your argument to carry more weight...you said you have experience...and that is fine...I did the same thing. Please clarify and state your exact experience.

Thanks.

AF Met... you are being very aggresive and confontational....
no need to get hostile. 6 year degree in physical geography
with emphasis in marine forcasting from the oldest organized
greography department in the country. 2 years intern... 2 years
active duty with NATO in Europe.... what else... oh yeah... I study
business value for a living in the private sector.

Question...what's a 6 year degree? Honestly, I don't know. I know B.S., B.A, Masters, ect....but not a 6 year degree.

[jax]

I stand corrected... I have a BA... with 2 years of 400-600 level
classes... 196 total semester hours with 38 hours of total grad
hours. Series 7/63

[Stormcenter]

I guarantee you that Bastardi doesn't make 250K per year. Anyone thinking that he does is clueless regarding how that company works


Sobel probably makes more, but as AFMET says, it is the sweatshop of forecasting. Pathetic that a GRADUATE STUDENT gets paid about 6K more than does Accuwx, and thats only if they are making the bare minumum as a grad student (just started with no fellowship).

The TV mets are not paid by Accuwx, but by the TV station

it's the private sector Derek.... He make 250k minimum... easy...

accuweather grosses over 5mill per year....

I would imagine Yahoo is paying Accuweather a good bit to broadcast their forecasts on the Yahoo web page.

[Air Force Met]

AF Met... you are being very aggresive and confontational....
no need to get hostile. 6 year degree in physical geography
with emphasis in marine forcasting from the oldest organized
greography department in the country. 2 years intern... 2 years
active duty with NATO in Europe.... what else... oh yeah... I study
business value for a living in the private sector.

I am not being confrontational. You are making a statement of fact when it is really only opinion. Right? Have you worked in a private sector meteorology company? You are new on here...and you make a claim as fact, when it is really only opinion...and then get upset when people who have experience in the field challenge your statement of fact? That is not being agressive. That's the nature of the blogosphere. People make claims all the time...statements as fact and that "they know because..."...so what's wrong with checking it out? Is it wrong to ask someone's credentials? Or is that now considered agressive to just take it for fact without checking up on it?

So...did you go to Berkeley? Were you part of the Golden Bear Battalion? You mentioned you were 2 years active duty at NATO. How long total were you there on active? Where did you go afterwards? Just curious. Been doing this for 18 years...paths might have crossed.

[melhow]

I guarantee you that Bastardi doesn't make 250K per year. Anyone thinking that he does is clueless regarding how that company works


Sobel probably makes more, but as AFMET says, it is the sweatshop of forecasting. Pathetic that a GRADUATE STUDENT gets paid about 6K more than does Accuwx, and thats only if they are making the bare minumum as a grad student (just started with no fellowship).

The TV mets are not paid by Accuwx, but by the TV station

it's the private sector Derek.... He make 250k minimum... easy...

accuweather grosses over 5mill per year....

I would imagine Yahoo is paying Accuweather a good bit to broadcast their forecasts on the Yahoo web page.

This looks to be from about 6-7 years ago, but it gives you an idea...

AccuWeather, with a staff of 350, has about 93 full-time meteorologists. The company fills about 10-15 meteorology positions each year, choosing from among 200-300 applicants. For a new hire with a plain-vanilla B.S. in meteorology, the starting salary is around $20,000 a year.

The 600-person Weather Channel staff includes 85 meteorologists, with 2-5 new hires per year and growth expected to level off after 2000. The starting salary there is about $30,000, but new hires usually have three to five years' experience. On-air personalities are compensated at a much higher rate.

http://www.ucar.edu/communications/quarterly/winter98/employment.html

[dhweather]

I guarantee you that Bastardi doesn't make 250K per year. Anyone thinking that he does is clueless regarding how that company works


Sobel probably makes more, but as AFMET says, it is the sweatshop of forecasting. Pathetic that a GRADUATE STUDENT gets paid about 6K more than does Accuwx, and thats only if they are making the bare minumum as a grad student (just started with no fellowship).

The TV mets are not paid by Accuwx, but by the TV station

it's the private sector Derek.... He make 250k minimum... easy...

accuweather grosses over 5mill per year....

According to your numbers, he makes 5% of the GROSS revenue of Accuweather. I doubt that.

[southerngale]

Some posts have been removed. Let's get back on topic, please.

[loon]

dang, just when it was getting good. I was wondering how long it would take before this baby got settled down a little.

[HouTXmetro]

Can we all just get along and make hit songs?

[cycloneye]

Ok folks let's get to topic not personnal or thread will be locked.

[Steve]

AirForce is a good due all around. He's not a wannabe. He takes his time out here to give us his take all the time. I appreciate that. But I wanted to clarify one thing:

>>There ya go. People are criticizing NHC and JB alike without understanding their respective foci. JB is *very* *very* good at recognizing patterns which result in development from several days out. His calls as to landfall that far out are *not* as impressive as his development recognition skill, BUT, he gets sort of ballpark with it. Are the individual forecasters at NHC pretty good at this? Probably they are, BUT, that's not their focus. Their focus is 36 hours out for the TWOs because, as advised by Stewart last night on NHCWX, that is the limit of what they believe they can forecast as far as development goes.

I have QUITE A GOOD understanding of their jobs. Now they may focus on 36 hours NOW, but that wasn't always the case a couple of years back. They'd go out 3 days pretty often telling you "tropical development is not expected" and slowly come around to tweaking the forecasts as conditions changed. I respect them, like I said. But give me Stewart over ANY of the other guys there because he earns his taxpayer paid salary. Some of the others are okay, but it wasn't always as good as it is now. In fact, going back only to 2002, there was quite a difference to their tone.

Steve

[dhweather]

Luis, I'd ask you to go ahead and lock it, this one will not recover to
a meaningful thread.

Gracias!!

(that's one of the 10 spanish words I know)

[Portastorm]

Ok folks let's get to topic not personnal or thread will be locked.

Thank you!!

Had I known this whole thing would have caused this kind of ruckus ... sheesh!

All I want to know is what folks are thinking about the system in the Caribbean and I found it interesting that JB went out on a limb to the extent that he did.

I kinda regret my original post now.

[Steve]

Don't regret it. I'm glad you posted what you did. It was always a possibility once the wave and convection busted the shear - which was pretty obvious to me that it was going to do so - that something could spin up. We'll see this weekend. Because other people don't want to get along doesn't mean that your initial post was wrong at all. I appreciate the candor. We'll see if it pans out or not.

Steve

[Air Force Met]

Ok folks let's get to topic not personnal or thread will be locked.

I'm cool with that.

Doesn't look like this thing is going to develop at all. I want my burn ban lifted so I can get my land cleared!

[Downdraft]

Some of us have watched JB for years. I have to applaud the guy he's an expert at covering so many bases at one time he can ALWAYS go back and quote himself for each scenario. To me, JB is more amusement than subsistence. How quickly AccuWeather AND JB forget their own screw-ups. Just ask Emergency Management in Corpus Christi what they think of AccuWeather after Gilbert! He's just another source of information no more no less. Anyone can say, "If this wave does develop watch out." Frankly, the GFS, JB and The Great One are my biggest sources of amusement during hurricane season. Keep up the good work the 3 of you make hurricane watching fun!

[Brent]

Doesn't look like this thing is going to develop at all. I want my burn ban lifted so I can get my land cleared!

LOL

I really don't think it's going to develop either... certainly not into anything significant anytime soon.

[Air Force Met]

Ok folks let's get to topic not personnal or thread will be locked.

Thank you!!

Had I known this whole thing would have caused this kind of ruckus ... sheesh!

All I want to know is what folks are thinking about the system in the Caribbean and I found it interesting that JB went out on a limb to the extent that he did.

I kinda regret my original post now.

Yeah...see what you went and did? Just goes to show you...people from Austin should not be in the driver's seat.




Ducking

[southerngale]

We're not going to lock it for now. We're all adults, well, except for Brent so I'm sure we can all handle staying on topic.