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OK maybe it's Brett.

#1 Postby Stormcenter » Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:21 pm

This looks like TS Brett in the BOC moving westward.
But I won't call it that until the NHC says I can. 8-)

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html
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#2 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:26 pm

I agree. Look at that it has a tiny cdo with banding moving around it. There is no way I can use buoys to tell how strong that is. In this morning info was coming an with 4 millibars for 40 miles.(I don't know about the data) But this looks good...
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Re: It's Brett no doubt about it.

#3 Postby Trader Ron » Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:27 pm

Stormcenter wrote:I have no doubt that this is TS Brett in the BOC moving westward.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html


Good thing it's moving West and not NNE.
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#4 Postby Scorpion » Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:29 pm

Hopefully the westward movement stops soon.
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#5 Postby Swimdude » Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:32 pm

The thing isn't going to stop moving West. I agree, this is probably Bret; which would be awesome. However, it's going bye-bye very soon.
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#6 Postby Trader Ron » Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:35 pm

Scorpion wrote:Hopefully the ward movement stops soon.


Why do you want it to stop moving westward? If it was moving NNE, you Could, i say Could have a problem on the Gulf Coast.
Anyone agree?
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#7 Postby Scorpion » Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:37 pm

They need the rain and the system would have much better potential to get stronger.
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#8 Postby southerngale » Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:37 pm

Trader Ron wrote:
Scorpion wrote:Hopefully the ward movement stops soon.


Why do you want it to stop moving westward? If it was moving NNE, you Could, i say Could have a problem on the Gulf Coast.
Anyone agree?


Maybe he's thinking about us poor folks in Texas and Louisiana who DESPERATELY need rain and wouldn't mind a weak TS moving north. I don't know, just a guess.
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#9 Postby Mathias » Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:38 pm

Could the westward movement of "Bret" drag the trough that is draped across the Gulf further west, preferably towards Texas?
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#10 Postby Kennethb » Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:40 pm

While it is apparent there is a predominant LLC in the BOC, their are at least two other visible, though small surface swirls in the visible satellite, which suggests that all of the energy is not being utilized by the predominant LLC.
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#11 Postby Anonymous » Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:40 pm

southerngale wrote:
Trader Ron wrote:
Scorpion wrote:Hopefully the ward movement stops soon.


Why do you want it to stop moving westward? If it was moving NNE, you Could, i say Could have a problem on the Gulf Coast.
Anyone agree?


Maybe he's thinking about us poor folks in Texas and Louisiana who DESPERATELY need rain and wouldn't mind a weak TS moving north. I don't know, just a guess.


I wish we would get rain out of this thing, I have done a rain dance all day :wink:
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#12 Postby Trader Ron » Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:42 pm

southerngale wrote:
Trader Ron wrote:
Scorpion wrote:Hopefully the ward movement stops soon.


Why do you want it to stop moving westward? If it was moving NNE, you Could, i say Could have a problem on the Gulf Coast.
Anyone agree?


Maybe he's thinking about us poor folks in Texas and Louisiana who DESPERATELY need rain and wouldn't mind a weak TS moving north. I don't know, just a guess.


I'm all for you folks in Texas, getting some rain. I was thinking of a different scenerio if it went NNE.
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#13 Postby Normandy » Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:42 pm

Maybe itll go into Mexico and recurve....At least I can hope.
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#14 Postby southerngale » Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:43 pm

Trader Ron wrote:
southerngale wrote:
Trader Ron wrote:
Scorpion wrote:Hopefully the ward movement stops soon.


Why do you want it to stop moving westward? If it was moving NNE, you Could, i say Could have a problem on the Gulf Coast.
Anyone agree?


Maybe he's thinking about us poor folks in Texas and Louisiana who DESPERATELY need rain and wouldn't mind a weak TS moving north. I don't know, just a guess.


I'm all for you folks in Texas, getting some rain. I was thinking of a different scenerio if it went NNE.


Yeah, you guys certainly don't need the rain. What a difference from one side of the GOM to the other!
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#15 Postby canegrl04 » Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:47 pm

Texas sure does need Bret. We've got droght conditions over about 2/3s of the state :eek:
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#16 Postby Steve » Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:51 pm

>>Texas sure does need Bret. We've got droght conditions over about 2/3s of the state

But isn't at least half your state a desert anyway??? ;)

Steve
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#17 Postby Andrew92 » Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:06 pm

southerngale wrote:
Trader Ron wrote:
Scorpion wrote:Hopefully the ward movement stops soon.


Why do you want it to stop moving westward? If it was moving NNE, you Could, i say Could have a problem on the Gulf Coast.
Anyone agree?


Maybe he's thinking about us poor folks in Texas and Louisiana who DESPERATELY need rain and wouldn't mind a weak TS moving north. I don't know, just a guess.


I think he seriously likes it when the U.S. gets hit by a hurricane. I would really like to think that he would NOT want that, given that he likely went through at least Frances and Jeanne last year. Previous posts of his in the past indicate that he thinks he could survive a Category 5 hurricane, as would his house.

I hope I'm wrong on that assessment, but I think that's why Scorpion wants the storm to move NNE, not just for the much-needed rain.

In any event, I really do think this system will become Bret before hitting Mexico, probably 40-45 MPH winds.

-Andrew92
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#18 Postby dhweather » Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:11 pm

Ideally, Bret would be a 50 MPH TS, mak landfall at Brownsville, and
move up towards San Antonio and give those folks some rain.

But that ain't gonna happen. :(
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#19 Postby x-y-no » Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:14 pm

Well, well ...

Take a day off from looking at sat images, and look what happens! ;-)

Pretty healthy looking system. Id say borderline TS now. Very likely a weak TS at landfall.

Jan
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#20 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:25 pm

there is NO data suggesting that this is anything close to a tropical storm, besides ones imagination, at the present time. A TD? of course it is that and advisories should have been issued starting at 11. But nothing suggests tropical storm now. Other Dvorak estimates are LOWER than the SSD one
(TAFB is only at 25KT... until there is data to the contrary, that should be the advisory intensity as winds in the BOC are weak)

If recon does find something more intense, then of course there is time to adjust upward. However, to avoid the cry the wolf scenario, it is best for a system this weak, to remain very cautious and not overstate the intensity

may we please not call a system by name until it is officially named as was asked so that there is no confusion?
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