94L is not dead yet...bouy 38 mph 1-min (41mph Gust)

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#21 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun Jun 26, 2005 6:54 pm

At 8pm most likely the same. It is become slightly discoupled from its mid levels. In if they did not upgrade when it was at its full they will not upgrade it now. But who knows. This system was very much a suprize to all of us.
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#22 Postby drezee » Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:01 pm

Finally the NWS wakes up!!

WWUS81 KAKQ 262353
SPSAKQ

SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WAKEFIELD VA
753 PM EDT SUN JUN 26 2005

MDZ024-025-VAZ099-100-270200-
INLAND WORCESTER-MARYLAND BEACHES-ACCOMACK-NORTHAMPTON VA-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...SNOW HILL...OCEAN CITY...CHINCOTEAGUE...
WALLOPS ISLAND...MELFA...EASTVILLE
753 PM EDT SUN JUN 26 2005

...HEAVY RAINS MOVING ONTO THE EASTERN SHORE...

A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM JUST SOUTH OF VIRGINIA BEACH...IS PRODUCING
HEAVY RAIN WHICH IS MOVING ONTO THE VIRGINIA AND MARYLAND EASTERN
SHORES. AT 745 PM...DOPPLER RAIN WAS INDICATING RAIN FROM NEAR
CAPE CHARLES LIGHT IN NORTHAMPTON COUNTY VIRGINIA...TO
SOUTHEASTERN WORCESTER COUNTY. THE RAIN WAS MOVING NORTHWEST
AROUND 15 MPH.

MODERATE TO OCCASIONALLY HEAVY RAIN WILL AFFECT THE VIRGINIA AND
MARYLAND EASTERN SHORES THROUGH 945 PM. THE POTENTIAL FOR ONE HALF
TO ONE INCH OF RAIN MAY OCCUR DURING THAT TIME...WITH THE HEAVIEST
RAINS ALONG AND NEAR THE ATLANTIC COASTAL AREAS. THE STEADY RAIN
MAY ALSO CAUSE SOME PONDING OF WATER ON ROADS AND MINOR FLOODING
IN LOW LYING AREAS. DUE TO THE TROPICAL NATURE OF THE
PRECIPTATION...THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR A WATER SPOUT TO DEVELOP
NEAR COASTAL AREAS WITH ANY POTENTIAL STORM. COASTAL RESIDENTS
SHOULD TAKE PRECAUTIONS AND HEIGHTEN THEIR AWARENESS FOR ANY
UNEXPECTED WEATHER.
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#23 Postby drezee » Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:06 pm

MARINE WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOUNT HOLLY NJ
742 PM EDT SUN JUN 26 2005

ANZ431-452>455-270528-
742 PM EDT SUN JUN 26 2005

...LARGE AREA OF HEAVY SHOWERS APPROACHING SOUTHERN COASTAL WATERS...

HEAVY SHOWERS EXTEND FROM THE COAST OF DELAWARE AT FENWICK ISLAND AND
DUE EAST OVER THE OCEAN FOR 145 MILES. THE AREA WAS MOVING NORTHWARD
AT 10 TO 15 MPH. MARINERS HEADING SOUTH OF DELAWARE WILL ENCOUNTER
VERY HEAVY RAIN WHICH WILL LAST FOR SEVERAL HOURS.

THESE SHOWERS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH A LOW PRESSURE THAT MOVED INLAND
THIS MORNING OVER NORTH CAROLINA. THE DEWPOINTS ALONG THE COAST HAVE
RISEN INTO THE LOWER 70S AND THIS IS AN INDICATION THAT THE SHOWERS
ARE MORE TROPICAL IN NATURE AND CAPABLE OF PRODUCING VERY HEAVY RAIN.

THERE WAS NOT ANY LIGHTING DETECTED WITH THESE SHOWERS AT THIS TIME.
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#24 Postby drezee » Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:19 pm

They didn't even mention it in the discussion! HA HA HA HA!! They are sleep!

http://asp1.sbs.ohio-state.edu/text/tro ... XNT20.KNHC
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#25 Postby Derek Ortt » Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:20 pm

TAFB didnt mention it because its not in their area of responsibility. They are not alseep. The discussions cover up to 32N
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#26 Postby drezee » Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:22 pm

Winds gusted to 43 mph last hour!

27/00 CHLV2 36.9 -75.6 21.9 050 25 G 29 050 37 1015.6 -2.2 CHLV2
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#27 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:22 pm

Derek ortt, what do you think of this?
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#28 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:22 pm

drezee wrote:They didn't even mention it in the discussion! HA HA HA HA!! They are sleep!

http://asp1.sbs.ohio-state.edu/text/tro ... XNT20.KNHC


Because above 32n they dont cover above that latitud as the header says.
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#29 Postby TampaFl » Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:23 pm

This is the latest surface plots from bouys & ships.

http://www.oceanweather.com/data/NE-US/marineloop.html

Robert 8-)
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#30 Postby drezee » Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:24 pm

I agree that 32N is the norm, but in this case they have made exceptions in the past!

Even in this one!

A STRONG 1033 MB HIGH IS CENTERED N OF THE
AZORES NEAR 44N27W.
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#31 Postby drezee » Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:35 pm

Please someone explain to me....

http://coolwx.com/buoydata/regions/atl-neusplot.php

Buoys and C-man stations have shown almost perfect LLC for many hours (see link above). NWS is stating that this system has raised the dewpoint to the lower 70s and shows its tropical nature. 43 mph wind gusts (even at 143 feet) and 38 mph 1-min winds...Pressure gradient is at least 6mb over a distance of less than 60 Nautical Miles to the N and over 3 mbs 40 miles to the South. The air temperature has risen for the last 4 hours (C-Man Station CHLV2) as the center approached in spite of the natural cooling of this time of day (much lower sun angle). Why can't this thing be classified?

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=chlv2

It has also continued to sustain convection!! (albeit removed from LLC now)

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#32 Postby Derek Ortt » Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:39 pm

not classified because it would be of a one advisory lifespan.

It may appear after the season as a tropical or subtropical depression
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#33 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:39 pm

Drezee, I'v got no idea. When it was moving inland earlier this morning buoys which where spread out no more then maybe 50 to 80 miles shown that it had a tight cirulation. Also the radar/satellite shown the same thing. That is when I think it was something. But the pro's here might disagree with me but thats my feeling. Right now it is starting to become discoupled. Which is the low level cirulation is just on the coast while the mid levels move northeastward. I don't have a clue on why it is not.

But this is my option take it for what it is.
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#34 Postby drezee » Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:44 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:not classified because it would be of a one advisory lifespan.

It may appear after the season as a tropical or subtropical depression


I hope so...data doesn't lie!
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#35 Postby Scorpion » Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:50 pm

Looks very good, almost TS like. The outflow is incredible.
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#36 Postby drezee » Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:52 pm

The NHC definition of a TC:

A tropical cyclone is the generic term for a non-frontal synoptic scale low-pressure system over tropical or sub-tropical waters with organized convection (i.e. thunderstorm activity) and definite cyclonic surface wind circulation

1. non-frontal synoptic scale low-pressure system **Check

2. tropical or sub-tropical waters **Check

3. with organized convection (i.e. thunderstorm activity) **Check

4. definite cyclonic surface wind circulation **Check

Am I missing anything?


I am not a NHC basher, but I would die to see Joe Bastardi's Column tomorrow morning. I am sure Accuweather will try and use this as a reason to get rid of the NHC. They have used less... :lol:
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#37 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:54 pm

When it was moving in it was a big suprized to me or any one. Drezee your not missing a thing.
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#38 Postby lilbump3000 » Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:58 pm

I guess they wont upgrade it but on the NRL site they now have it at 30kts.
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#39 Postby drezee » Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:05 pm

Thanks!!
94LINVEST.30kts-1014mb
368N-756W
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#40 Postby senorpepr » Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:15 pm

drezee wrote:Thanks!!
94LINVEST.30kts-1014mb
368N-756W


Invest (N/A / 94L) (27/0000Z)
Position: 36.8°N 75.6°W (25 miles E from Virginia Beach, Virginia)
Winds: 35 mph
Pressure: 1014 mb / 29.94''
Dvorak Est: Too Weak
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