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[Blown Away]

Tampa ranks higher than Outer Banks?

http://houseandhome.msn.com/Move/Hurric ... x?GT1=6549

More importantly I went from a wave to a low!!

[Trader Ron]

Dang. I'm #3.

[Trader Ron]

I'm shocked the Florida Panhandle is #8.

[HURAKAN]

NO SURPRISE THAT I'M
#1

[sponger]

I love how Pensacola discusses Opal but not Ivan! Who cares where the eye came in??? Ask Pens residents if they felt spared or lucky Ivan Missed!

[otowntiger]

Hurricane Jeanne hit what is considered the central Florida coast (Indian River county) as a category 3 just after Frances. Why didn't they mention her? She was stronger and hit the same area as Frances, if not a little further north. It is oversights like this that lower the credibility of such articles significantly, in my mind. Its obvious that someone did their homework, but why can't they ever get it totally right or complete?

[x-y-no]

We're #1! We're #1!

I'm surprised the outer banks aren't ranked higher than they are, though. Not sure that's right.

Jan

[Brent]

Interesting.

Frances and Jeanne hit in the exact same spot BTW:

AT 1 AM EDT...0500Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE FRANCES WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 27.2 NORTH...LONGITUDE 80.2 WEST OR NEAR SEWALL'S
POINT FLORIDA. THIS IS ALSO IN THE VICINITY OF STUART...JENSEN
BEACH...AND PORT SALERNO FLORIDA.

AROUND 1150 PM EDT SATURDAY...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE JEANNE MADE
LANDFALL NEAR THE SOUTHERN END OF HUTCHINSON ISLAND JUST EAST OF
STUART FLORIDA...NEAR LATITUDE 27.2 NORTH...LONGITUDE 80.2 WEST.

[NativeFloridaGirl]

Hurricane Jeanne hit what is considered the central Florida coast (Indian River county) as a category 3 just after Frances. Why didn't they mention her? She was stronger and hit the same area as Frances, if not a little further north. It is oversights like this that lower the credibility of such articles significantly, in my mind. Its obvious that someone did their homework, but why can't they ever get it totally right or complete?

Both hurricanes came onshore in Martin County (Unfortunately that was right over my house ). Martin is two counties south of Indian River County and is the county just north of Palm Beach county.

~Beth~

[TreasureIslandFLGal]

That list is bogus. First of all, it seems to run its main conclusions on the "they're due" philosophy. We know that Mother Nature doesn't deal in "because its been so long since"....etc.
Then, the other conclusion it uses is based on impact from a storm, at least in tampa's case, but not on a direct hit.
I can't believe that Tampa is #4 on the list. If history is used, then it is quite obvious that othe rareas have faired far worse than us to merit a high ranking!
If their only reasoning for our ranking is because we have felt the impact of a few storms, after crossing the state, that is not much to earn a 4th place! -especially because other than last year, that is pretty rare anyway!

I do believe that our area will eventually get a direct hit from a storm, just as any place along the coast will... but to give us a 4th place rating seems warped based on the impact storms have actually had on our area. Heck, its been almost 80 years since we had a direct hit. How does that put us ahead of the other cities below us that have been hit far more often?

[caneman]

The list isn't bogus. It is what it is. People think you have to have a Cat. 5 slam a particlular location to call it a hit. I live in the Tampa area and lost Power for 13 days total and lost 3 Trees. Is that not suppose to be called a hit because it didn't tear my House down. Another poster mentioned they couldn't believe that Carolina was lower. Yet another mistake people make by looking at just the last 10 to 20 years which were way above average for the Carolinas.

[TreasureIslandFLGal]

well I still don't agree with it.

I lived in North Carolina and the outer banks got hit every year it seemed, at least once! I got hit by Fran and Floyd most memorably. -as well as many "lesser" storms affected us every year I was there. (Sometimes just their remnants after they hit the gulf coast.)

Fran knocked out my electricity (also no water) for 28 days. I moved after that to the western side of the state, but Floyd put my old house under 14 feet of water...far inland.

I understand feeling the effects of storms, I live on the beach myself. But to give us such a high ranking based on the secondary effects we received last year just seems out of whack for the "overall picture" of hurricane action. People often have just as much if not more damage than you mentioned from sever thunderstorms and flooding in Tampa Bay. Other than last year, we have only been slightly grazed by 2 tropical storms since 98. When I lived here before (91-94) we had some light side effects from Andrew, but that was it tropically speaking.

I sympathize with your personal trials after last year's storms. Many people I work with, especially those living in Polk County, had to deal with tree and roof damage, but still, last year was highly unusual for that county to be so affected. Tampa itself, and Pinellas County were only mildly impacted overall considering that 3 storms crossed close or over us. I just think other areas further down the list are far more prone to tropical activity than we are is all.

If last year's flukey triple play was not considered a "direct hit" for Tampa (even though Charley didn't affect us), would we even be on the list?

[caneman]

Yes, look back 100 years. You mention your Carolina experience and here since 91. You can't look at 10 or 20 years have to go back 100 years. And yes anything within I believe 60 or 70 miles counts as an impact.

[Trader Ron]

well I still don't agree with it.

I lived in North Carolina and the outer banks got hit every year it seemed, at least once! I got hit by Fran and Floyd most memorably. -as well as many "lesser" storms affected us every year I was there. (Sometimes just their remnants after they hit the gulf coast.)

Fran knocked out my electricity (also no water) for 28 days. I moved after that to the western side of the state, but Floyd put my old house under 14 feet of water...far inland.

I understand feeling the effects of storms, I live on the beach myself. But to give us such a high ranking based on the secondary effects we received last year just seems out of whack for the "overall picture" of hurricane action. People often have just as much if not more damage than you mentioned from sever thunderstorms and flooding in Tampa Bay. Other than last year, we have only been slightly grazed by 2 tropical storms since 98. When I lived here before (91-94) we had some light side effects from Andrew, but that was it tropically speaking.

I sympathize with your personal trials after last year's storms. Many people I work with, especially those living in Polk County, had to deal with tree and roof damage, but still, last year was highly unusual for that county to be so affected. Tampa itself, and Pinellas County were only mildly impacted overall considering that 3 storms crossed close or over us. I just think other areas further down the list are far more prone to tropical activity than we are is all.

If last year's flukey triple play was not considered a "direct hit" for Tampa (even though Charley didn't affect us), would we even be on the list?

I agree with you. If i was making the list, OBX would be #4 and Central Gulf Coast would be #6 or #7. I also don't believe in "due". You will go broke betting "due' every year. .

[TreasureIslandFLGal]

I just did a quick look up...

Cape Hatteras - 117 storms have come within 120 miles since 1888
Storm Category: Frequency
Tropical Storm 14.9
Hurricane 1-2 9.5
Hurricane 3-5 11.6
All Storms 5.0

Tampa - 114 storms have come within 120 miles since 1888
Storm Category: Frequency
Tropical Storm 7.4
Hurricane 1-2 14.9
Hurricane 3-5 104.0
All Storms 5.2

Although their overall numbers are close, Tampa is still a few behind. BUT, more importantly, look at the strength of storm that does impact and the frequency of those storms. NC rarely gets a Tropical Storm, but is far far more likely to get Hurricanes. They get a 3+ hurricane every 11.6 years and Tampa's average for a major hurricane is over 100 years!

So if you go by tropical storms, Tampa is more active. If you go by hurricanes, the Cape has us way beat!

[TreasureIslandFLGal]

Mind you, that data goes all the way back to 1888. AND, it goes to impact within 120 miles.

This is the data for just 60 miles:.......
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AAARRRGGGGGHHH!

I just noticed the link I was using for Hatteras is wrong! grr. It is giving my Homestead data. The Hatteras link is bogus. So sorry everyone, it looks like my whole argument just went poof!

Well....let's see if I can get Hatteras info elsewhere... brb

[whereverwx]

The State Climate Office of North Carolina is a good resource website.

[TreasureIslandFLGal]

grrrr. I can't find anything else as detailed...

I did request that they update the link for Hatteras, but here is where I was getting my info:
http://www.hurricanealley.net/impactcomp.html

hopefully they will have it updated so I can continue the thread with proper data soon! sorry everyone!

[TampaFl]

This is from Insure.com - listing the top 10 cities for a major hurricane (Cat 3, 4, & 5) and the amount of insured losses. Thoughts and comments welcomed.

Robert

http://info.insure.com/home/disaster/wo ... icane.html

[jlauderdal]

Tampa ranks higher than Outer Banks?

http://houseandhome.msn.com/Move/Hurric ... x?GT1=6549

More importantly I went from a wave to a low!!

UNO..I am also numero uno in preparedness.