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Do you think they will find Natalee (dead or alive)???

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#21 Postby bfez1 » Thu Jun 23, 2005 1:59 pm

Well then maybe this case will be cracked wide open real soon.
I sure hope so for everyone involved.
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#22 Postby GalvestonDuck » Thu Jun 23, 2005 2:00 pm

Hmmmmm.... A lot of people involved...no blood or physical evidence yet. I'm wondering if there is something to the whole slave industry theory.
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#23 Postby Brent » Thu Jun 23, 2005 2:10 pm

Judge arrested in Aruba case

Thursday, June 23, 2005; Posted: 3:02 p.m. EDT (19:02 GMT)

ORANJESTAD, Aruba (CNN) -- An Aruban judge, the father of a 17-year-old suspect in the disappearance of an Alabama teenager, has also been arrested in the case, a prosecution spokesperson said Thursday.

Paul Van Der Sloot is now being viewed as a suspect in the case of Natalee Holloway, a missing 18-year-old from suburban Birmingham, Alabama, Mariaine Croes said. He was arrested about 2 p.m. Thursday.

On Wednesday, Holloway's mother said more individuals "need to be pursued" in connection with the case.

Beth Holloway Twitty said she's sure the four young men in custody -- but not formally charged in the case -- have more information to divulge.

"I have no doubt that they know what and who and where and when and why and how. I have no doubt," Twitty said on NBC's "Today Show."

"The only thing I think there are some other individuals, though, that need to be pursued, and I know the local authorities are doing that and will be doing that," she added.

Twitty told CNN's "American Morning" she met Tuesday with the parents of 17-year-old Joran Van Der Sloot, one of the people in custody. He's one of the last people reported to have seen Holloway.

She said the Van Der Sloots invited her into their home, when she was handing out prayer cards in their neighborhood.

Twitty refused to give details about their 90-minute discussion.

"I think I walked away with the confirmation that we still have some individuals that we need to pursue," she said.

Holloway, an 18-year-old honors student from the Birmingham suburb of Mountain Brook, disappeared May 30 after she left a nightclub with Van Der Sloot and brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, ages 21 and 18 respectively, authorities said.

She was in Aruba with about 100 classmates to celebrate their recent graduation.

The three men and a fourth suspect, 26-year-old disc jockey Steve Croes, face accusations of two counts of murder and one count of kidnapping leading to murder.

None have been formally charged, and Twitty says she has seen "no evidence whatsoever" that her daughter is dead.

Defense attorneys for Van Der Sloot and the Kalpoes have said their clients maintain their innocence.

Meanwhile, four members of a Texas-based search-and-rescue team were scheduled to arrive in Aruba late Wednesday to begin planning their search for Holloway, said Tim Miller, director and founder of Texas EquuSearch.

Members of the group will meet with Aruban government officials and Holloway's family as soon as they arrive, Miller told CNN Wednesday.

The team has been delayed because of problems getting a charter flight and permission for their four search dogs to travel to the Caribbean island, Miller said.

All elements of the team should be in place Friday, he explained, including a side-scan sonar device that can peer 800 feet down into the ocean.

Miller founded Texas EquuSearch several years after the 1984 disappearance of his own daughter. Miller's efforts to find her were frustrated by a lack of help from authorities who thought she was a runaway. She later was found murdered in Texas, according to the group's Web site.

"I know what the Holloways are going through right now ... [we're going to] try to do everything possible to locate this child," Miller said.
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#24 Postby Thunder44 » Thu Jun 23, 2005 2:37 pm

Remember you can be arrested in Aruba, without any evidence at all against you. Also, the police in Aruba are under alot of pressure in this case, so this new arrest may be more for show than progress in the investigation. We'll see if they get any closer to finding out what happenend.
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#25 Postby bfez1 » Thu Jun 23, 2005 2:43 pm

This is so frustrating, I can't imagine what her poor family is going through.
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#26 Postby OtherHD » Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:04 pm

I don't think she'll be found alive. I also don't think that this story deserves to be a national issue.
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#27 Postby JTD » Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:08 pm

OtherHD wrote:I don't think she'll be found alive. I also don't think that this story deserves to be a national issue.


Absolutely. The media coverage of this has been even more extensive than the coverage of Michael Jackson's troubles (over a shorter period)
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#28 Postby streetsoldier » Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:51 pm

I do NOT think it's been over-covered; few recall Amy Bradley, lured off of her cruise ship, kidnapped and sold into prostitution in 1998, and she hasn't been seen since '99 (island of Curacao, just east of Aruba). If we DON'T settle this situation now, how many more Amys and Natalees will suffer? :grrr:
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#29 Postby OtherHD » Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:17 pm

streetsoldier wrote:I do NOT think it's been over-covered; few recall Amy Bradley, lured off of her cruise ship, kidnapped and sold into prostitution in 1998, and she hasn't been seen since '99 (island of Curacao, just east of Aruba). If we DON'T settle this situation now, how many more Amys and Natalees will suffer? :grrr:


well, I disagree. media overkill won't settle ay situation. all it takes is common sense and pepper spray...not non-stop media hype.
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#30 Postby sunny » Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:50 am

OtherHD wrote:well, I disagree. media overkill won't settle ay situation. all it takes is common sense and pepper spray...not non-stop media hype.


Ever heard of the date-rape drugs? Common sense and pepper spray go out the window when you are rendered helpless. Natalee was young - and trusting. She meet this young man from a good family and probably thought "I'm safe with him". Sorry HD - but it does happen.
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#31 Postby j » Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:09 am

all speculation....but here's mine:

She drank way too much that night, and left willingly with these boys. At some point in the evening, probably right before they leave the nightclub, one of these slimeballs slips something in her drink. I think the 2 Indian kids are probably innocent and their story changed because they were covering for Van Der whatever his name is.

Fast forward to the beach...he has her way with her, at this point she is pretty much helpless from the drugging. She has a siezure or some other kind of reaction from drug/alchohol mix. Van der whatever panicks and brings her to his house asking dear ole dad what he should do.

From this point, its anybody's guess, but I think the Dad was probably involved in the subsequent disposal of her body.
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#32 Postby gtalum » Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:54 am

I can't believe this thing is still being over-covered, despite teh USSC taking away private property rights in the US. As sad as this girl's story may be, this USSC decision affects every one of us.
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#33 Postby sunny » Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:56 am

gtalum wrote:I can't believe this thing is still being over-covered, despite teh USSC taking away private property rights in the US. As sad as this girl's story may be, this USSC decision affects every one of us.


While I appreciate your point of view, there are those of us who are interested in other stories as well. This is just one of them.
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#34 Postby Miss Mary » Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:07 am

Whoa, that's a powerful statement. One you're justified in having gtalum. But I for one do not share it. Nearly everyone I talk to, is interested in knowing how this case works out. We all hope for a miracle here, like Elizabeth Smart, but fear the worst. I hope her family has some definitive answers ASAP, so they will know what did happen to their daughter.

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#35 Postby Brent » Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:23 am

I'll add a different opinion...

BOTH stories should get a lot of coverage. The Holloway case doesn't have a new development every hour, so you have a live report from Aruba/rehash what we knew 2 weeks ago and then you debate the USSC ruling. When there's news in the Holloway case, you cover it for as long as needed.
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#36 Postby PTrackerLA » Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:51 am

I don't know why anyone is surprised at the media attention, things like this are covered by the media all the time, they love murder mysteries.
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#37 Postby Brent » Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:37 pm

This case has taken yet another bizarre turn.

Steve Croes, the DJ from a party boat, and the father of Joran Van Der Sloot, Paul, have been released or will be tomorrow due to lack of evidence.

I now question whether Aruba officials are just arresting people so the pressure will be off. :roll:
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#38 Postby streetsoldier » Sun Jun 26, 2005 6:08 pm

It still centers on Joran van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers; Joran's story doesn't "play", and the brothers have admitted to a coverup.

Let's hope the Texans do better than the Arubans, but...and I insist on this...they should be looking in the other islands and on the mainland. Especially in the "red-light" districts.
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#39 Postby sunny » Mon Jul 04, 2005 1:43 pm

The judge just released the Kalpoe brothers. Now, only Joran remains in custody.
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