UKMET 144hrs scary if this is the norm.....say in sept

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UKMET 144hrs scary if this is the norm.....say in sept

#1 Postby Anonymous » Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:51 am

Now this would be very bad if the 144 hr UKMET (a very good model-maybe the best along with euro) forecast became the norm for the season 2005 lets just put a hurricane where I did in this graphic :eek: Where would it go--my choice is not the righthand turn though Im not so sure....

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#2 Postby MWatkins » Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:59 am

In that example...unfortunately....if that were the steering layer...the psudo cyclone would already be past the point of recurvature and would be beneath the ridge axis on the backside...and would probably accelerate toward the coast in time.

Boooo.

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#3 Postby Anonymous » Sun Jun 19, 2005 1:13 am

MWatkins wrote:In that example...unfortunately....if that were the steering layer...the psudo cyclone would already be past the point of recurvature and would be beneath the ridge axis on the backside...and would probably accelerate toward the coast in time.

Boooo.

MW


Ok I agree but lets put the storm at 20N, 60W...Heading is NW...It is before approaching the split between the highs---then, would it go between the highs or go around the overall ridge and strike the US? I know they tend to turn if there is a weakness but how much of a weakness has to be present? is this map enough or do the highs have to be clearly seperated and not quite a ridge? Or would it be a close call?
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#4 Postby MWatkins » Sun Jun 19, 2005 1:17 am

Jekyhe32210 wrote:
MWatkins wrote:In that example...unfortunately....if that were the steering layer...the psudo cyclone would already be past the point of recurvature and would be beneath the ridge axis on the backside...and would probably accelerate toward the coast in time.

Boooo.

MW


Ok I agree but lets put the storm at 20N, 60W....It is before approaching the split between the highs---then, would it go between the highs or go around the overall ridge and strike the US? I know they tend to turn if there is a weakness but how much of a weakness has to be present? is this map enough or do the highs have to be clearly seperated and not quite a ridge? Or would it be a close call?


I don't think it would have a chance to catch the weakness. It may move WNW for a bit but if that were the steering layer...it doesnt look...in the model...like there would be a SW influence to pull the cyclone up to the N then NE.

Even in that spot the next 24 to 48 hour motion would probably net out at 285 or even further west than that.

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Re: UKMET 144hrs scary if this is the norm.....say in sept

#5 Postby Brent » Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:57 am

Jekyhe32210 wrote:Now this would be very bad if the 144 hr UKMET (a very good model-maybe the best along with euro) forecast became the norm for the season 2005 lets just put a hurricane where I did in this graphic :eek: Where would it go--my choice is not the righthand turn though Im not so sure....

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:eek: :eek: :eek:

Florida is screwed if that's the setup.
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#6 Postby Scorpion » Sun Jun 19, 2005 9:40 am

Scary..yet exciting. I can already feel the adreneline pump lol. I wonder if this is just an anomoly or will this pattern stay.
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#7 Postby rainydaze » Sun Jun 19, 2005 9:56 am

Yeah, another disasterous scenario for Florida!

I just hope it is not the second weekend in September because that's when we are meeting our family from Georgia in Disney for a few days....I'm already nervous enough about the timing, I don't need "hypothetical" hurricane monsters barreling in...LOL... :P
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#8 Postby cyclonaut » Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:32 am

It all about timing..The patterm might not be like that all the time but if it does look similar to that when the canes start rolling in there will be problems for Florida if not some other location in the U.S.
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#9 Postby Amanzi » Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:35 am

My birthday is September 9th... I never know whats going to blow the candle out on the cake.. or blow the whole darn cake away :roll: :D
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#10 Postby CFL » Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:38 pm

Let's just hope the set-up changes between now and then. I assuming these patterns change on a weekly, if not daily, basis. Am I correct?
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#11 Postby Derek Ortt » Sun Jun 19, 2005 6:45 pm

depending upon the mean flow, that weakness may be enough to suck a storm out to sea. It does not take much of a weakness to drag a storm up and out. Last year, Frances looked as if it may turn to the Carolinas, due to a narrow weakness, but the weakness only remained for about 6 hours, not enough to drag it north into Carolina
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#12 Postby kevin » Sun Jun 19, 2005 7:45 pm

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#13 Postby DoctorHurricane2003 » Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:02 pm

Some people just need to learn to grow up.

Getting back onto topic.....it will be VERY interesting to see the setup when August 1 comes around.
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