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#21 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Apr 20, 2005 10:33 pm

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I ask anyone: Should this "disturbance" be considered a tropical depression?

I think that like an insult to the intelligence of a human being, is like calling Fidel, "president."

Maybe the JTWC has to do some adjusments in what they call depression and what should remain as a tropical disturbance, at best in this case.
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#22 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:06 am

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WTPN31 PGTW 210900
MSGID/GENADMIN/NAVPACMETOCCEN PEARL HARBOR HI/JTWC//
SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING//
RMKS/
1. TROPICAL DEPRESSION 03W WARNING NR 004
01 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONE IN NORTHWESTPAC
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE
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WARNING POSITION:
210600Z9 --- NEAR 8.2N0 140.7E2
MOVEMENT PAST SIX HOURS - 285 DEGREES AT 04 KTS
POSITION ACCURATE TO WITHIN 060 NM
POSITION BASED ON CENTER LOCATED BY SATELLITE
PRESENT WIND DISTRIBUTION:
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 025 KT, GUSTS 035 KT
REPEAT POSIT: 8.2N0 140.7E2
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FORECASTS:
12 HRS, VALID AT:
211800Z2 --- 9.1N0 139.1E4
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 025 KT, GUSTS 035 KT
VECTOR TO 24 HR POSIT: 300 DEG/ 10 KTS
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24 HRS, VALID AT:
220600Z0 --- 10.0N1 137.4E5
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 030 KT, GUSTS 040 KT
VECTOR TO 36 HR POSIT: 295 DEG/ 12 KTS
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36 HRS, VALID AT:
221800Z3 --- 10.9N0 135.2E1
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 030 KT, GUSTS 040 KT
VECTOR TO 48 HR POSIT: 290 DEG/ 10 KTS
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EXTENDED OUTLOOK:
48 HRS, VALID AT:
230600Z1 --- 11.6N8 133.3E0
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 035 KT, GUSTS 045 KT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 055 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
045 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
045 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
055 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 72 HR POSIT: 290 DEG/ 06 KTS
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72 HRS, VALID AT:
240600Z2 --- 12.5N8 131.0E5
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 035 KT, GUSTS 045 KT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 060 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
050 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
050 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
060 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
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REMARKS:
210900Z2 POSITION NEAR 8.4N2 140.3E8.
TROPICAL DEPRESSION (TD) 03W, LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 170 NM EAST-
SOUTHEAST OF YAP ISLAND AND HAS TRACKED WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT 04
KNOTS OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS. RECENT ANIMATED WATER VAPOR
IMAGERY INDICATES THE CONVECTION HAS BECOME INCREASINGLY
DISORGANIZED
. MAXIMUM SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT AT 210600Z9 IS 12
FEET. REFER TO WWPW30 PHNC FOR ADDITIONAL SEA HEIGHT INFORMATION.
NEXT WARNINGS AT 211500Z9, 212100Z6, 220300Z7 AND 220900Z3.//

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I think it has been always "increasingly disorganized."
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#23 Postby James » Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:56 am

From the JTWC:

REMARKS:
211500Z9 POSITION NEAR 8.4N2 139.6E9.
TROPICAL DEPRESSION (TD) 03W, LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 130 NM SOUTHEAST
OF YAP ISLAND HAS TRACKED WESTWARD AT 07 KNOTS OVER THE PAST SIX
HOURS. RECENT ANIMATED WATER VAPOR IMAGERY SHOWS INCREASED POLEWARD
AND EQUATORWARD OUTFLOW. MAXIMUM SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT AT 211200Z6
IS 12 FEET. REFER TO WWPW31 PHNC FOR ADDITIONAL SEA HEIGHT INFORMATION.
NEXT WARNINGS AT 212100Z6, 220300Z7, 220900Z3 AND 221500Z0.//

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#24 Postby James » Thu Apr 21, 2005 1:27 pm

Looking a little better organised now.
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#25 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Apr 21, 2005 2:30 pm

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I agree with you James, looking much, much better. Looking now as a true tropical depression not like before.
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#26 Postby James » Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:12 pm

JTWC are still listing it as a 25kt depression.

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#27 Postby James » Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:07 am

Hmm, JTWC have just issued the final advisory on it. It seemed to be getting its act together. Oh well.
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#28 Postby P.K. » Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:51 am

30kts 1 minute averages.

REMARKS:
220900Z3 POSITION NEAR 12.0N3 135.2E1.
TROPICAL DEPRESSION (TD) 03W, LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 885 NM EAST OF
MANILA, PHILIPPINES, HAS REDEVELOPED AND HAS TRACKED NORTHWESTWARD AT
14 KNOTS OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS. RECENT ANIMATED ENHANCED WATER
VAPOR AND INFRARED IMAGERY REVEALS AN INCREASE IN DEEP CONVECTION AND
AN IMPROVEMENT IN SURFACE INFLOW. MAXIMUM SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT AT
220600Z0 IS 15 FEET. REFER TO WWPW30 PHNC FOR ADDITIONAL SEA HEIGHT
INFORMATION. NEXT WARNINGS AT 221500Z0, 222100Z7, 230300Z8 AND
230900Z4.//
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#29 Postby hcane » Fri Apr 22, 2005 11:28 am

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#30 Postby P.K. » Fri Apr 22, 2005 4:19 pm

REMARKS:
222100Z7 POSITION NEAR 11.7N9 132.0E6.
TROPICAL DEPRESSION (TD) 03W, LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 700 NM
EAST-SOUTHEAST OF MANILA, PHILIPPINES, HAS TRACKED WESTWARD
AT 15 KNOTS OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS. RECENT ANIMATED SATEL-
LITE IMAGERY REVEALS INCREASING CONSOLIDATION OF THE DEEP
CONVECTION AROUND A WELL-DEFINED LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION CEN-
TER. MAXIMUM SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT AT 221800Z3 IS 12 FEET.
REFER TO WWPW31 PHNC FOR ADDITIONAL SEA HEIGHT INFORMATION.
NEXT WARNINGS AT 230300Z8, 230900Z4, 231500Z1 AND 232100Z8.//

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#31 Postby senorpepr » Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:32 pm

The thread title should be changed to reflect the new name...

Currently 45 mph (1-min avg)

WTPQ20 RJTD 230000
RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVISORY
NAME TS 0503 SONCA (0503) UPGRADED FROM TD
ANALYSIS
PSTN 230000UTC 11.6N 132.8E FAIR
MOVE W 10KT
PRES 1000HPA
MXWD 035KT
30KT 60NM
FORECAST
24HF 240000UTC 12.8N 130.2E 90NM 70%
MOVE NW 06KT
PRES 998HPA
MXWD 035KT
48HF 250000UTC 15.0N 129.0E 150NM 70%
MOVE N 06KT
PRES 996HPA
MXWD 040KT
72HF 260000UTC 18.0N 129.0E 230NM 70%
MOVE NNE 10KT
PRES 996HPA
MXWD 040KT =
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#32 Postby James » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:23 am

Wow, Sonca's satellite appearance is looking very good now. The storm has really pulled itself together.
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#33 Postby KWT » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:41 am

Yes indeed it does look much better now and is definatly a tropical storm no doubts about.
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#34 Postby James » Sat Apr 23, 2005 4:32 am

Sonca is currently forecast to peak at 55kts, but does anyone think it may get slightly stronger than that?
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#35 Postby James » Sat Apr 23, 2005 5:21 am

Never mind, that question has already been answered. Sonca is now expected reach typhoon status briefly in about 24 hours' time.
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#36 Postby x-y-no » Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:40 am

Hey now ... that's a little more like it ...

No threat to any land, fortunately.
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#37 Postby James » Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:48 am

Incidently, 'Sonca' is the Vietnamese word for a singing bird.
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#38 Postby James » Sat Apr 23, 2005 10:05 am

The latest warning puts Sonca just shy of Typhoon status, at 60kts. The storm is now expected to peak at 90kts.

From the JTWC:

231500Z1 POSITION NEAR 12.6N9 131.3E8.
TROPICAL STORM (TS) 03W (SONCA), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY
630 NM EAST OF MANILA, PHILIPPINES, HAS TRACKED
NORTHWESTWARD AT 05 KNOTS OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS.
TS 03W HAS SLOWED, BECOME MORE VERTICALLY ORGANIZED AND
EXHIBITED STRONG INTENSIFICATION OVER THE PAST 12 HOURS.
ANIMATED SATELLITE IMAGERY AND A 231204Z2 SSMI PASS
DEPICTS A WELL ORGANIZED IMPROVING SYSTEM. MAXIMUM
SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT AT 231200Z8 IS 22 FEET. REFER
TO WWPW31 PHNC FOR ADDITIONAL SEA HEIGHT INFORMATION.
NEXT WARNINGS AT 232100Z8, 240300Z9, 240900Z5 AND 241500Z2.//
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#39 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Apr 23, 2005 10:06 am

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WTPN31 PGTW 231500
MSGID/GENADMIN/NAVPACMETOCCEN PEARL HARBOR HI/JTWC//
SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING//
RMKS/
1. TROPICAL STORM 03W (SONCA) WARNING NR 013
01 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONE IN NORTHWESTPAC
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE
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WARNING POSITION:
231200Z8 --- NEAR 12.4N7 131.5E0
MOVEMENT PAST SIX HOURS - 310 DEGREES AT 05 KTS
POSITION ACCURATE TO WITHIN 060 NM
POSITION BASED ON CENTER LOCATED BY SATELLITE
PRESENT WIND DISTRIBUTION:
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 060 KT, GUSTS 075 KT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 010 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
010 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
010 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
010 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 065 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
065 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
065 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
065 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
REPEAT POSIT: 12.4N7 131.5E0
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FORECASTS:
12 HRS, VALID AT:
240000Z6 --- 13.1N5 130.6E0
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 075 KT, GUSTS 090 KT
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 010 NM
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 025 NM
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 080 NM
VECTOR TO 24 HR POSIT: 310 DEG/ 06 KTS
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24 HRS, VALID AT:
241200Z9 --- 13.9N3 129.6E8
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 085 KT, GUSTS 105 KT
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 015 NM
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 030 NM
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 085 NM
VECTOR TO 36 HR POSIT: 325 DEG/ 05 KTS
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36 HRS, VALID AT:
250000Z7 --- 14.7N2 129.0E2
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 090 KT, GUSTS 110 KT
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 020 NM
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 035 NM
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 095 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
085 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
085 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
095 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 48 HR POSIT: 355 DEG/ 08 KTS
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EXTENDED OUTLOOK:
48 HRS, VALID AT:
251200Z0 --- 16.2N9 128.8E9
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 090 KT, GUSTS 110 KT
BECOMING EXTRATROPICAL
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 020 NM
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 035 NM
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 105 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
095 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
095 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
105 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 72 HR POSIT: 025 DEG/ 11 KTS
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72 HRS, VALID AT:
261200Z1 --- 20.2N4 130.6E0
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 060 KT, GUSTS 075 KT
BECOMING EXTRATROPICAL
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 075 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
065 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
065 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
065 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 96 HR POSIT: 055 DEG/ 25 KTS
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LONG RANGE OUTLOOK:
NOTE...ERRORS FOR TRACK HAVE AVERAGED NEAR 250 NM
ON DAY 4 AND 350 NM ON DAY 5... AND FOR INTENSITY
NEAR 20 KT EACH DAY.
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96 HRS, VALID AT:
271200Z2 --- 25.7N4 139.9E2
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 040 KT, GUSTS 050 KT
EXTRATROPICAL
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REMARKS:
231500Z1 POSITION NEAR 12.6N9 131.3E8.
TROPICAL STORM (TS) 03W (SONCA), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY
630 NM EAST OF MANILA, PHILIPPINES, HAS TRACKED
NORTHWESTWARD AT 05 KNOTS OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS.
TS 03W HAS SLOWED, BECOME MORE VERTICALLY ORGANIZED AND
EXHIBITED STRONG INTENSIFICATION OVER THE PAST 12 HOURS.
ANIMATED SATELLITE IMAGERY AND A 231204Z2 SSMI PASS
DEPICTS A WELL ORGANIZED IMPROVING SYSTEM. MAXIMUM
SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT AT 231200Z8 IS 22 FEET. REFER
TO WWPW31 PHNC FOR ADDITIONAL SEA HEIGHT INFORMATION.
NEXT WARNINGS AT 232100Z8, 240300Z9, 240900Z5 AND 241500Z2.//
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WPAC's second typhoon of the season is around the corner!
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#40 Postby Aquawind » Sat Apr 23, 2005 11:14 am

That bird is yodeling..

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