NHC recommends retirement of Charley, Ivan, Frances and Jean

[Ixolib]

(National-NBC) Dec. 14, 2004 - Charley, Ivan, Frances and Jeanne are all names Floridians likely don't want to hear again.

The National Hurricane Center is recommending the names be retired from the alphabetical list used each year for tropical cyclones.

Under the rules the country most affected by a hurricane can request the offending storm's name no longer be used. In Florida alone Hurricanes Charley, Ivan, Frances and Jeanne left behind more than $40 billion in damage and claimed 117 lives.

The retirement of the four names won't become official until the regional hurricane committee of the World Meteorological Organization approves it next spring at a meeting in Costa Rica.

So far, the names of 58 hurricanes have been retired. The last was in 1995 and the first in 1955. The lists of names used for tropical storms and hurricanes are recycled every six years.

[Rainband]

Good

[AussieMark]

So far, the names of 58 hurricanes have been retired. [b]The last was in 1995 and the first in 1955. The lists of names used for tropical storms and hurricanes are recycled every six years.

Does that mean no storm had been retired since 1995.

There have been a lot retired since 1995 thats all

1996: Cesar, Fran, Hortense

1998: Georges, Mitch

1999: Floyd, Lenny

2000: Keith

2001: Allison, Iris, Michelle

2002: Isidore , Lili (?)

2003: Isabel

[HurricaneBill]

Actually, 59 hurricanes have been retired. Oh wait, Allison was a TS. So they were right. However, let's take a look at the retirees the 2004 storms will be joining.

Hurricane Carol (1954)
Hurricane Edna (1954)
Hurricane Hazel (1954)
Hurricane Connie (1955)
Hurricane Diane (1955)
Hurricane Ione (1955)
Hurricane Janet (1955)
Hurricane Audrey (1957)
Hurricane Gracie (1959)
Hurricane Donna (1960)
Hurricane Carla (1961)
Hurricane Hattie (1961)
Hurricane Flora (1963)
Hurricane Cleo (1964)
Hurricane Dora (1964)
Hurricane Hilda (1964)
Hurricane Betsy (1965)
Hurricane Inez (1966)
Hurricane Beulah (1967)
Hurricane Camille (1969)
Hurricane Celia (1970)
Hurricane Agnes (1972)
Hurricane Carmen (1974)
Hurricane Fifi (1974)
Hurricane Eloise (1975)
Hurricane Anita (1977)
Hurricane David (1979)
Hurricane Frederic (1979)
Hurricane Allen (1980)
Hurricane Alicia (1983)
Hurricane Elena (1985)
Hurricane Gloria (1985)
Hurricane Gilbert (1988)
Hurricane Joan (1988)
Hurricane Hugo (1989)
Hurricane Diana (1990)
Hurricane Klaus (1990)
Hurricane Bob (1991)
Hurricane Andrew (1992)
Hurricane Luis (1995)
Hurricane Marilyn (1995)
Hurricane Opal (1995)
Hurricane Roxanne (1995)
Hurricane Cesar (1996)
Hurricane Fran (1996)
Hurricane Hortense (1996)
Hurricane Georges (1998)
Hurricane Mitch (1998)
Hurricane Floyd (1999)
Hurricane Lenny (1999)
Hurricane Keith (2000)
Tropical Storm Allison (2001)
Hurricane Iris (2001)
Hurricane Michelle (2001)
Hurricane Isidore (2002)
Hurricane Lili (2002)
Hurricane Fabian (2003)
Hurricane Isabel (2003)
Hurricane Juan (2003)
Hurricane Charley (2004)
Hurricane Frances (2004)
Hurricane Ivan (2004)
Hurricane Jeanne (2004)

[HurricaneBill]

2002: Isidore , Lili (?)

Yep, Lili was retired. She hit Cuba as a Category 2 and despite weakening from a cat 4 to a cat 1 prior to landfall on Louisiana, she still caused $800 million in damage. Quite destructive for a Category 1 storm.

[AussieMark]

Carol was a funny one as she was used in 1965 but just was never used again after that point.

[HurricaneBill]

Carol was a funny one as she was used in 1965 but just was never used again after that point.

Carol in 1965 and Edna in 1968. However, both were quickly retired afterwards because of the 1954 storms.

Probably was the original decision to remove a storm name for at least 10 years. People probably felt retired names ought to stay retired.

[Ixolib]

So far, the names of 58 hurricanes have been retired. [b]The last was in 1995 and the first in 1955. The lists of names used for tropical storms and hurricanes are recycled every six years.

Does that mean no storm had been retired since 1995.

There have been a lot retired since 1995 thats all

1996: Cesar, Fran, Hortense

1998: Georges, Mitch

1999: Floyd, Lenny

2000: Keith

2001: Allison, Iris, Michelle

2002: Isidore , Lili (?)

2003: Isabel

That's a good point. Wonder how NBC screwed that one up?? Or am I missing something?????

[Sean in New Orleans]

I agree that these names should be retired...I expected them all to be retired, as well, anyway...

[CharleySurvivor]

Retire them, yes, and they will never be forgotten for us in FL.

[AJC3]

So far, the names of 58 hurricanes have been retired. [b]The last was in 1995 and the first in 1955. The lists of names used for tropical storms and hurricanes are recycled every six years.

Does that mean no storm had been retired since 1995.

Here's what I think probably happened: The reporter asked whomever the interviewee was (someone at NHC?) when the first ('55) and last ('95) time that four names were retired from the same season.

Then when he or she pieced together the story, that little factoid got inserted into the story in the wrong place and/or twisted around such that it reads as if the last time any name was retired was in '95.

[ncweatherwizard]

So far, the names of 58 hurricanes have been retired. [b]The last was in 1995 and the first in 1955. The lists of names used for tropical storms and hurricanes are recycled every six years.

Does that mean no storm had been retired since 1995.

Here's what I think probably happened: The reporter asked whomever the interviewee was (someone at NHC?) when the first ('55) and last ('95) time that four names were retired from the same season.

Then when he or she pieced together the story, that little factoid got inserted into the story in the wrong place and/or twisted around such that it reads as if the last time any name was retired was in '95.

Ditto; it's the only thing that seems to makes sense.

[LAwxrgal]

Not a big surprise. They should be retired.

[Stormsfury]

So far, the names of 58 hurricanes have been retired. The last was in 1995 and the first in 1955. The lists of names used for tropical storms and hurricanes are recycled every six years.

Serious misprint ...

I agree with AJC3, referring to the two times that 4 named storms were retired in a single season ...

[Hurricanehink]

Yea, completely agree with all of them. Bad mistake with the last time was 1995, but oh well.

[AussieMark]

those news agencies are good at getting the wrong statistics out on Hurricane related matters.

[cyclonaut]

Those names mentioned are worthy of retirement.

Heck of a season it twas - it twas

[Andrew92]

Now we gotta look out in 2010 for Hurricanes Corey, Fiona, Ian, and Julie!

Just recommendations for replacement names. Ya gotta guess these just for fun!

-Andrew92

[HURAKAN]

My suggestions:

Charley - Cliff
Frances - Fanny
Iván or Ivan - If in Spanish (Isidro), If in English (Irvin)
Jeanne - Jasmine

[Buck]

Charley - Cameron
Frances - Fanny
Ivan - Ian (Ivan is a Russian form of "John" and Ian is a Scotch form of "John")
Jeanne - Jewel (also French)