Camille's imagery TODAY...

Anonymous · #21 Postby **Anonymous** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:49 pm

I also took like... the eye of the IR4 from Isabel...shrunk it, closed up any weak spots. Basically making what I think a 190 mph hurricane would look like, in the shape of Camille. Then, I superimposed the image over a visible of Camille.

michaelwmoss · #22 Postby **michaelwmoss** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:32 pm

You have great creativity my brother

Your thoughts Floydbuster: How many more storms do you think we are going to have?

#23 Postby **vbhoutex** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:38 pm

~Floydbuster wrote:Actually, Camille was a small hurricane.

I don't call sustained Hurricane force winds with gusts to 100mph 120 miles from the center small!!! If I remember correctly Panama City, FL even had hurricane force gusts. I lived in Gulf Breeze, when Camille came ashore and it was one of the most frightening and exciting nights of my life. Gulf Breeze is 120 miles west of the landfall point(at least). I know there have been much bigger storms by size, but not to many storms put down that kind of winds that far out.

michaelwmoss · #24 Postby **michaelwmoss** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:52 pm

That goes back to my thoughts on any Hurricane: NONE OF THEM ARE LITTLE/WEAK. Shoot even Gales are dangerous (Just look at Nicole)

Sanibel · #25 Postby **Sanibel** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:00 am

You can see the cuts aren't smooth and flowing like a natural IR would be. Interesting anyway. Whoever said the core tops would be black and offscale is probably correct.

Down here the Gulf saturates in high-angle tropic of Cancer sun for June and July. By August the heat content and humidity start peaking in still hot sun. Boom. Like Charley, if you combine just the right atmospherics and overhead High the GOM SST's can be perfectly transmitted to a cyclonic engine. Camille rode perfect conditions into the Gulf and kept them up to shore. Her IR would be very impressive and equally terrifying for someone looking on from a computer today. If we are in another peak period it would be safe to assume that the phase that 1969 represented should be repeated again...

#26 Postby **vbhoutex** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:17 am

And in fact 1969 was considered one of the analog years for this years Hurricane season. It certainly tried hard to live up to the intensity of Camille.

michaelwmoss · #27 Postby **michaelwmoss** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:17 am

How close did Ivan come to that kind of representation?

Anonymous · #28 Postby **Anonymous** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:11 am

Well, Ivan was moving from a favorable Caribbean to a getting more unfavorable Gulf of Mexico. Camille was moving from an extremely favorable Caribbean into an extremely favorable Gulf of Mexico.

michaelwmoss · #29 Postby **michaelwmoss** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:41 am

Nevertheless, Ivan was still very impressive in the Gulf, at least for a short time he did hours before he hit (Awesome Stadium effect with the eye)

HurricaneGirl · #30 Postby **HurricaneGirl** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 6:47 am

Holy Crap!

The Big Dog · #31 Postby **The Big Dog** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:17 am

This appears to be taken from the visible on 8/16/69, 1710Z. According to the Unisys archives, at 18Z, it was at 24.2N, 86.5W, which would be about 300 or so miles due west of Key West. It was a strong Cat 4 at this point, 150 mph, 908 mb. So this storm still had quite a way to go. Certainly hadn't maxed out yet.

#32 Postby **Blown Away** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:17 am

What was the eye diameter?? Approx how wide was the 200mph
windfield/ gusts area?

#33 Postby **Blown Away** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:28 am

What was the eye diameter?? Approx how far did the 200mph
gusts go out?

Stormsfury · #34 Postby **Stormsfury** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:34 am

The core of the winds only extended a short distance from the eyewall ... I have information at home (I'm on lunch at work right now) regarding the wind radii of Camille and can report back later this afternoon on some exact figures ...

SF

Normandy · #35 Postby **Normandy** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:00 pm

This appears to be taken from the visible on 8/16/69, 1710Z. According to the Unisys archives, at 18Z, it was at 24.2N, 86.5W, which would be about 300 or so miles due west of Key West. It was a strong Cat 4 at this point, 150 mph, 908 mb. So this storm still had quite a way to go. Certainly hadn't maxed out yet.

Not pressure wise, only 3 more millibars to go.

The Big Dog · #36 Postby **The Big Dog** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:10 pm

Normandy wrote:
This appears to be taken from the visible on 8/16/69, 1710Z. According to the Unisys archives, at 18Z, it was at 24.2N, 86.5W, which would be about 300 or so miles due west of Key West. It was a strong Cat 4 at this point, 150 mph, 908 mb. So this storm still had quite a way to go. Certainly hadn't maxed out yet.

Not pressure wise, only 3 more millibars to go.

Hmm... true. A pressure of 908 should support a Cat 5. Gotta wonder if either the wind or pressure might be underestimated in the best track database.

Normandy · #37 Postby **Normandy** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:52 pm

The pressure is correct, it was measured at landfall. The winds would be the only thing overestimated. I personally think 190 is a tad too high (Unless there are wind measurements of it, which I highly doubt).

.....
Unless, Camille went through an ERC of some sorts when it made landfall. If that was the case the pressure could have been sub 900 while in the Gulf. I lean towards this idea.

Matthew5 · #38 Postby **Matthew5** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:02 pm

Kind of looks like Charley. very cool!

Anonymous · #39 Postby **Anonymous** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:28 pm

Well. Winds were 195 mph/900 mb, and then it came onshore at 190 mph.

Anonymous · #40 Postby **Anonymous** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:10 pm

Real hard to find image of Hurricane Camille.

Camille's imagery TODAY...

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