They should be issuing warnings!!!! Right?

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They should be issuing warnings!!!! Right?

#1 Postby cind52 » Sat Oct 09, 2004 2:54 pm

Will they issue warnings for the La/Miss/Ala. coast? Especially if it's a TD I know it's kind of late but.....
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#2 Postby rbaker » Sat Oct 09, 2004 2:57 pm

they (tpc) don't issue warnings or watches for td's unless they think it will become a storm. They don't think it will become a storm anytime soon.
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#3 Postby TS Zack » Sat Oct 09, 2004 2:58 pm

Its a storm now!RECONN has found Tropical Storm Force Winds
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#4 Postby Brent » Sat Oct 09, 2004 2:58 pm

They will at 5pm EDT.
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#5 Postby PTPatrick » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:00 pm

despite the fact this thing is weak...I think with convection continuing to fire...a TS warning would appropriate...i mean heck...they had TS warnings for Bonnie. I also remember TS Hermine in 98...it looked much less impressive than this as it headed into the same area of SE LA...and they had a TS warning
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#6 Postby rbaker » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:05 pm

if that's the case, they should have had them up 12 hrs ago when it was a ts. La and Miss have had up to 6" or rain and the center isn't that much closer than it was then.
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Re: They should be issuing warnings!!!! Right?

#7 Postby TS Zack » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:07 pm

Warnings at 4CDT
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Re: They should be issuing warnings!!!! Right?

#8 Postby Ixolib » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:10 pm

TS Zack wrote:Warnings at 4CDT


Many are saying this is "nothing more than a rainmaker or afternoon rain shower". If that's the case, will the NHC still put up TS watches/warnings?
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Re: They should be issuing warnings!!!! Right?

#9 Postby TS Zack » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:11 pm

The NHC isn't going to look at it as only a rainmaker. This is a Tropical Storm it will prodcuce winds but not winds that wil ldamage things and such thats why the worst thing will be flooding.
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Re: They should be issuing warnings!!!! Right?

#10 Postby Brent » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:13 pm

Ixolib wrote:
TS Zack wrote:Warnings at 4CDT


Many are saying this is "nothing more than a rainmaker or afternoon rain shower". If that's the case, will the NHC still put up TS watches/warnings?


Because if it has 39 mph sustained winds, warnings have to be issued.
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Re: They should be issuing warnings!!!! Right?

#11 Postby Ixolib » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:15 pm

TS Zack wrote:The NHC isn't going to look at it as only a rainmaker. This is a Tropical Storm it will prodcuce winds but not winds that wil ldamage things and such thats why the worst thing will be flooding.


Here on the MS coast, tides are already running about 2 feet above normal on the bay side. Rivers are up pretty good too. If they issue a warning, I know it will impact the businesses along hwy 90 because many of them(casinos) have regulations that they must shut down under certain guidelies. Tides above 3+ feet make it dangerous to get on and off.
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#12 Postby mikey mike » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:16 pm

they've got to put up warnings.latest vortex message says they found 41kts winds.
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#13 Postby mikey mike » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:18 pm

hey ixolib.ya really think they'll close the casinos?
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#14 Postby Scorpion » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:20 pm

41 kt FL winds. That translates to about 35 kts surface, but I doubt that surface winds are 90% of FL winds. I think its still a depression.
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#15 Postby Ixolib » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:25 pm

hey ixolib.ya really think they'll close the casinos?


They've done it for TS before, but this case is a little different. Don't think they will unless there's a definite trend to the north, and pressures/convection close in that pushes the water up. If they do, the decision will be based on forecasted tidal increase - not the wind as it will be minimal.
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#16 Postby rbaker » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:26 pm

that's right scorpion, I haven't seen any flt level winds above 41 kts, unless a late finding comes in between now and 5pm. 35 mph is below criteria of ts status, unless they are going to go by the pressure of 997 mbs.
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#17 Postby DoctorHurricane2003 » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:26 pm

The 90% reduction is 37 KT, the 85% reduction is 35 KT.
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#18 Postby Derek Ortt » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:26 pm

90 percent only applies to 700mb.

80 percent is used at 850mb where the plane is flying; which is close to TS
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#19 Postby dhweather » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:27 pm

mikey mike wrote:hey ixolib.ya really think they'll close the casinos?


That won't happen.

The Mississippi Gaming Commission dictates when they close, and a weak TS isn't gonna cause that.
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Re: They should be issuing warnings!!!! Right?

#20 Postby TS Zack » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:29 pm

New Advisory out he a Tropical Storm!
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