evening matt forecast... still 50KT at LA/MS

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Derek Ortt

evening matt forecast... still 50KT at LA/MS

#1 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:43 pm

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#2 Postby mikey mike » Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:52 pm

So that will put it on my doorstep here on the MS Gulf Coast around Sunday a.m. [/code]
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#3 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:54 pm

graphics now at http://www.nwhhc.com/atl142004graphics.html

need the turn to occur when it does and not any earlier, or else NO will be getting some serious rainfall from this storm
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#4 Postby mikey mike » Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:55 pm

sorry bout that code thing at the end.musta hit by mistake
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#5 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:56 pm

if this track verifies, the center would be near you sunday morning, but the weather would then be east of you. MS will likely get the worst overnight saturday as the center is SW since the effects are NW of the center
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#6 Postby mikey mike » Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:58 pm

NO can't take too much serious rain.We need some serious rain here.Ivan never gave us that much rain so I'm hoping for a slow event.
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#7 Postby BamaMan » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:03 pm

Derek, Mobile would also be very close to the worst of what matthew has to offer also, right?
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Re: evening matt forecast... still 50KT at LA/MS

#8 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:12 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:http://www.nwhhc.com/atl142004forecast.html


Derek looking at the latest satellite loop
makes me believe you have something there.


http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/satelli ... itype=irbw
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Re: evening matt forecast... still 50KT at LA/MS

#9 Postby Ixolib » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:15 pm

Stormcenter wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:http://www.nwhhc.com/atl142004forecast.html


Derek looking at the latest satellite loop
makes me believe you have something there.


http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/satelli ... itype=irbw


Why do you believe that? I see the convection shift to the N or NNW ever so slightly - is that what you saying?
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#10 Postby AL Chili Pepper » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:28 pm

BamaMan wrote:Derek, Mobile would also be very close to the worst of what matthew has to offer also, right?


Looks like it's going to be a rainy one, and it sure looks to put a dent in my weekend plans. We need a little rain, but not as much as we're probably going to get. I guess I'll just kick back and watch some ball games....if the satellite doesn't kaput.
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#11 Postby wxman57 » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:29 pm

I don't know, Derek. I don't see any indications of decreasing shear beyond 24 hours. I wouldn't be surprised if Matthew's convection became more and more separated from an exposed LLC as time goes on. I really doubt it'll maintain TS strength up to landfall.
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#12 Postby ColdFront77 » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:33 pm

Wind shear was 50 to 75 knots in the Gulf of Mexico yesterday... they are now down to 25 to 50 knots.
The trend has decreased 5 to 10 knots in the eastern Gulf and increased 5 knots across the western Gulf.
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#13 Postby Rainband » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:33 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:if this track verifies, the center would be near you sunday morning, but the weather would then be east of you. MS will likely get the worst overnight saturday as the center is SW since the effects are NW of the center
you mean ne right?? of the center I mean
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#14 Postby bayfred » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:40 pm

AL Chili Pepper wrote:
BamaMan wrote:Derek, Mobile would also be very close to the worst of what matthew has to offer also, right?


Looks like it's going to be a rainy one, and it sure looks to put a dent in my weekend plans. We need a little rain, but not as much as we're probably going to get. I guess I'll just kick back and watch some ball games....if the satellite doesn't kaput.


Gee, is there any football on that you might enjoy?
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#15 Postby wxman57 » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:45 pm

ColdFront77 wrote:Wind shear was 50 to 75 knots in the Gulf of Mexico yesterday... they are now down to 25 to 50 knots.
The trend has decreased 5 to 10 knots in the eastern Gulf and increased 5 knots across the western Gulf.


So 25-50 kt wind shear is favorable for development? That wind shear was north of Matthew yesterday, but now Matthew is heading northward toward the increasing shear.
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#16 Postby ColdFront77 » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:52 pm

I never implied 25 to 50 knot wind shear was favorable for development. I am mentioning the decrease since yesterday.
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#17 Postby wxman57 » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:57 pm

ColdFront77 wrote:I never implied 25 to 50 knot wind shear was favorable for development. I am mentioning the decrease since yesterday.


Yeah, I know, but it's going to take one heck of a decreasing shear trend to allow Matthew to remain intact up to landfall. As of the past 4-6 hours, it looks like the center is becoming more broad and being separated farther from the convection.
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#18 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:45 pm

I'm not forecasting intensification through the normal barotropic processes. This is partially baroclinic. The intensificiation is being driven more by QG principles (went into them in the first forecast at 2100) than by our typical mechanisms
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