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#21 Postby mf_dolphin » Mon Sep 27, 2004 8:49 pm

The Yellowstone volcano issue has been hyped but it's hardly something to lose sleep over. The volcao has erupted 3 times in approximately 2.1 million years. That make the actual average once every 700 million years. the way I see it we're only 60 million years from the next one. I don't think I'll be here to see it ;-)
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#22 Postby Ixolib » Mon Sep 27, 2004 10:14 pm

Well, I'm sticking to my story... I'll take a hurricane ANY DAY over earthquakes, volcanos, and tornados. And they may run just a close second to a blizzard. :lol:
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#23 Postby frankthetank » Mon Sep 27, 2004 10:48 pm

Sorry for the hype... There are hundreds of Doomsday scenarios... I just think people don't realize Why Yellowstone is the way it is... I've never been in a hurricane, but I'd rather have one then a tornado or volcano
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#24 Postby Anonymous » Mon Sep 27, 2004 11:18 pm

Im more worried about a volcanic island that is falling apart in the Atlantic (near northern Africa I believe). There is a portion of the island that is very lose, and if it collapsed, it would send a tsunami upwards of 60-70 feet towards the eastern sea board. Saw it on Discovery.
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#25 Postby Aslkahuna » Mon Sep 27, 2004 11:26 pm

about 75k years ago was the last Supervolcano eruption and that's the one Anthropologists believe was a near extinction event for the Human Race as there's a Genetic bottleneck that seems to have occurred then. It may be true that Yellowstone has erupted three times in the past 2.1 million years, but that's not to say that it erupts every 700 thousand years but that ON AVERAGE it does that. It's like saying that Florida ON AVERAGE gets a major hurricane once every three years. Have to be real careful with dealing with statistics involving Natural events-especially volcanoes and earthquakes.

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#26 Postby MWatkins » Tue Sep 28, 2004 12:19 am

I remember having volvanic ash on the windshield of my parent's stationwagon on May 18th, 1980...way down in Kansas. If I remember correctly it was a Sunday but I could be wrong there.

This eruption was one of the most memorable moments of my childhood...along with Three Mile Island...and Hurricanes Allen and Fredrick...and the landing of the space shuttle Columbia...(yes..I lived in Kansas then). I was at my grandparents house on May 18th...(I was 9 at the time).

The mountian coming alive at this time is very very creepy...I actually debated pursuing Geology for a time before settling on meteorology...ironic considering all of the tropical activity this season.

Here's a cool site depicting the event...

http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/Hazards/Effec ... fects.html

Not sure if anyone remembers the Art Carney portrail of the man who wouldn't leave in the HBO Mt. St. Helens movie...but I do.

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#27 Postby canegrl04 » Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:46 am

I remeber that old guy.He refused to leave and wound up being lost somewhere in Helen's debris :roll: What a shame there are people who value their home over their life during an impending disaster
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#28 Postby vbhoutex » Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:07 am

On the today show this morning they said the scientists are "watching Mt. St. Helens closely", but they don't know what the series of quakes that occurred yesterday mean. HHHMMMM???? And Mike this Kansas boy who lives in Houston remembers having ash on his windshield in Houston from the same eruption.
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#29 Postby HollynLA » Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:17 am

I went to Alaska a few months back and learned of their earthquake and it amazed me so much that I've started educating myself on it. The Anchorage earthquake is the second most powerful earthquake ever recorded in history, 2nd only to Chile.

I visited Yellowstone about 2 years ago and it was the most amazing place I've ever seen in my entire life. If you've never been, you must go atleast once in your life. The geisers and paint pots are the most amzing spectacle of nature you could witness to attempt to understand what's going on beneath the earth's crust. I've also watched a documentary about what's under yellowstone, and I certainly don't want to be around when that thing blows again. They have started seeing signs of something going on for the past few years, like the ground below the lake has risen in some spots pushing to lake over to the other side, more active geisers, etc. Very interesting stuff.
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#30 Postby Cyclone Runner » Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:31 am

Here are the live seismo websites for the MSH Dome

http://www.ess.washington.edu/SEIS/PNSN ... 92812.html

and for the MSH South Rim

http://www.ess.washington.edu/SEIS/PNSN ... 92812.html

The harmonic tremors are almost continuous now.

I reckon she is going to blow within the week. But they are all forecasting a small eruption. They have now banned all climbing on the mountain for the first time since that late 1980s.

I wonder how long it will take the ash cloud to reach poor Florida :wink:
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#31 Postby HollynLA » Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:52 am

Question: How can they predict it will be a small eruption?? Is there any science behind predicting how big the eruption will be?

Also, how far can ash travel in an explosion of Mt. St. Helens?
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#32 Postby Cyclone Runner » Tue Sep 28, 2004 8:06 am

HollynLA wrote:Question: How can they predict it will be a small eruption?? Is there any science behind predicting how big the eruption will be?

Also, how far can ash travel in an explosion of Mt. St. Helens?


If you go to the Cascades Volcano Website, there are heaps of discussions on the current activity at Mt St Helens, plus a wide array of information about the Volcanoes in the chain. The ash cloud from the original May 18 1980 eruption went around the world a few times, but obvious fallout was noticed across the USA to about Michigan although a few reports from New England. For example the fallout was quite visible as dusting on cars in places like Missoula and Butte Montana, Bismarck ND, Rapid City SD etc

http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/home.html
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Re: Hurricanes, Earthquakes, Famine, etc.

#33 Postby Chuck Waters » Tue Sep 28, 2004 9:49 am

NorthGaWeather wrote:
Have we not had earthquakes, hurricanes and wars before? There are things that have to happen that haven't. You don't know when the end will be thats why you have to be ready. Don't worry about this because its all happened before. I'm a Christian and sometimes I don't knwo why but everytime an Earthquake happens people harp that its the end. You don't know what God's plan is and you should't worry.


Of course we've had earthquakes and wars in the past and I'm not suggesting that the world will end tomorrow. I'm just noting that these things are on the increase.
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#34 Postby tronbunny » Tue Sep 28, 2004 9:58 am

Chuck..
This is an increase in our tiny little minds.
On God's scale- the geologic scale- it's all relative, things are "normal" as noted in another thread..
While this hurricane season seems inordinately active .. check back in history and you'll realize that we're just coming out of a lull.
The Human mind is puny in comparison to geologic scale.
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#35 Postby MomH » Tue Sep 28, 2004 1:37 pm

For those who want to watch--

http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/volcanocams/msh/

is a live cam shot of Mt. St. Helen updated every five minutes.
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#36 Postby Wnghs2007 » Tue Sep 28, 2004 2:05 pm

HOLY CRAP SEISMIC ACTIVITY LOOKS TO BE INCREASING!!!!!!!!!!!!

COMPARE THIS IMAGE OF YESTERDAY....

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TO TODAY SO FAR!!!!!

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WOW :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
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#37 Postby Guest » Tue Sep 28, 2004 2:36 pm

There were quakes in Central CA earlier the stongest registered 5.9
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#38 Postby Wnghs2007 » Tue Sep 28, 2004 2:55 pm

redorangeglow wrote:There were quakes in Central CA earlier the stongest registered 5.9



Well its now up to 6.0 on the Richter Scale. Says so on the USGS site now. Earlier it had 5.8 and then 5.9 and now 6.0 and that should be where it tops out
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Re: If you got Cyclone Fatigue-Look At Live Mt St Helens Sei

#39 Postby crabbyhermit » Tue Sep 28, 2004 3:07 pm

Cyclone Runner wrote:Sorry its a bit off-topic, but since we are all weary of cyclones and Mt St Helens is getting ready to blow again (probably minor eruption), you may want to check out this live seismograph.

http://www.ess.washington.edu/SEIS/PNSN ... 92712.html

USA seems to be hopping with serious Geo-physical Phenomena this year.


I went to that link and I see the graph thing, but is it supposed to be a real-time thing? Is it supposed to be moving like an animated model or something? Or is it a static snapshot and I need to reload the page? I've never seen one of these before, but like many here, I need a Pending Catastrophe Fix! :lol:
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#40 Postby tronbunny » Tue Sep 28, 2004 4:11 pm

Crabby,

There's even more to watch for all US volcanoes.
Here's the update page:
http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/update.html
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