Why is everyone captivated on Ivan? It's dead!!!

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Why is everyone captivated on Ivan? It's dead!!!

#1 Postby TLHR » Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:21 pm

Enough!!!

If you can help me spot the remains of Ivan so I could better understand your wish-casting, please do so!

http://www.wunderground.com/global/Regi ... llite.html

All I see is a cold front draped from Canada to The Bahamas.
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#2 Postby lilbump3000 » Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:23 pm

Aint nobody -removed-. People and meteorologist are saying something about ivan remains developing a low in the gulf, and they also have the models to back it up.

Now lets not get all upset here tomorrow and tuesday will be the moment of truth. Them the days that will tell it all.
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#3 Postby ColdFront77 » Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:24 pm

It isn't all that common to see this happen at night (during any time of year) across the Florida peninsula:

Melbourne National Weather Service Radar
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#4 Postby huricanwatcher » Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:25 pm

ColdFront77 wrote:This isn't a common occurrence at night (at any time of the year) across the Florida peninsula:

Melbourne National Weather Service Radar


is that IVAN? :oops:
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#5 Postby Innotech » Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:26 pm

in this most unusual season Im not at all surprised or doubtful about htis happening.
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#6 Postby Matthew5 » Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:26 pm

It is not Ivan that is off the southeast coast. That area of low clouds is a area of Atmospheric energy or laten heat moving south. This area is forecasted by the models to form a area of low pressure, over the next few days. As it moves south. Then when that range of high pressure builds down(The one that is to turn Jeanne around)It will head southwest across Florida. It is possible that the Gulf could see a weak tropical storm???
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#7 Postby TLHR » Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:27 pm

I'm upset because there are 5 or 6 threads on the remnants of Ivan.
I don't see anything in the Gulf.
I don't see anything off the coast of Florida except Jeanne.
Infra-red images don't lie!!

THERE IS NO CONVECTION IN THE PLACES EVERYONE IS SAYING IVAN'S REMNANTS ARE!

Am I the only one with common sense around here??

PS: Karl's a fish!!!

:grr:
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#8 Postby ColdFront77 » Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:29 pm

TLHR wrote:I'm upset because there are 5 or 6 threads on the remnants of Ivan.
I don't see anything in the Gulf.
I don't see anything off the coast of Florida except Jeanne.
Infra-red images don't lie!!

THERE IS NO CONVECTION IN THE PLACES EVERYONE IS SAYING IVAN'S REMNANTS ARE!

Am I the only one with common sense around here??

ColdFront77 wrote:It isn't all that common to see this happen at night (during any time of year) across the Florida peninsula:

Melbourne National Weather Service Radar
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#9 Postby FritzPaul » Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:30 pm

I thought we agreed to drop "wish-casting" from our vocabulary.

If the NWS says there's a possibility of TD, then discussing it is not out of the question.

This is a tropical weather forum after all.

If it bothers you, don't click on threads w/ Ivan in the subject line.

Remember the quote "what you don't know will not hurt you". LOL
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#10 Postby Matthew5 » Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:31 pm

Yes Karl is a fish...But I would not be surprized if Lisa moves west-southwest on the back side of Karl. Then move westward to west-northwestward. When the upper level ridge rebuilds...If you think I'm wrong take a look at the latest Gfdl!!!
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#11 Postby SouthernWx » Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:43 pm

TLHR wrote:I'm upset because there are 5 or 6 threads on the remnants of Ivan.
I don't see anything in the Gulf.
I don't see anything off the coast of Florida except Jeanne.
Infra-red images don't lie!!

THERE IS NO CONVECTION IN THE PLACES EVERYONE IS SAYING IVAN'S REMNANTS ARE!

Am I the only one with common sense around here??

PS: Karl's a fish!!!

:grr:



Friend, why don't you relax an take a chill pill? I don't see Ivan ever becoming a threat to the U.S. again, but don't care what others post. If you don't want to read it...just ignore any post with the word "Ivan" in it...

Just my .02 cents worth...
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#12 Postby Terry » Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:44 pm

TLHR - I'm not one to argue, but look at the radar. As Coldfront said, this isn't a common ocurrence in FL. You often see rain/t-storms moving off of either coast late in the evening as the seabreeze front storms go out to sea. But you just don't see these coming in during the evening.

Plus - the local NWS and local mets have been talking about this possibility for Ivan for a day or so.
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#13 Postby CourierPR » Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:21 pm

He's dead, Jim!
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#14 Postby fci » Sun Sep 19, 2004 11:42 pm

Area of rain and increased winds to come ashore near Vero Beach and Ft Pierce overnight. Raised possibilities of possible funnel clouds over SOuth Flrodia tomorrow.

"At 00z vorticity maximum...associated with the remnants of Ivan...is moving
southwest at 23 knots off of the Florida NE coast near 29.5n 77.5w.
Extrapolating this motion...it will move ashore near Fort
Pierce-Vero Beach tomorrow morning around 12z and move into the Gulf
of Mexico between 18z and 00z.

Besides fast moving showers and possibly thunderstorms...enough
helicity is probably available to cause funnel clouds tomorrow
morning and early afternoon over the southern peninsula. "

They ARE remnants of Ivan....
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#15 Postby amawea » Mon Sep 20, 2004 12:08 am

fci , nailed it with they are pieces if Ivan. What happened is the mid level low associated with ivan has moved south and is a left over of that storm. What happens from here is yet to be seen, but that disturbance woudn't be there if Ivan hadn't gave birth to it.
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#16 Postby stormcloud » Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:11 am

You can have an upper vort max that doesn't have clouds/precip with it. The models have picked up on a vort max moving southwest. It's possible for it to spin up a surface reflection later this week in the Gulf. It may not BE Ivan, but it seems to have spun off from it.
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Remnants

#17 Postby Steve Cosby » Mon Sep 20, 2004 8:40 am

stormcloud wrote:You can have an upper vort max that doesn't have clouds/precip with it. The models have picked up on a vort max moving southwest. It's possible for it to spin up a surface reflection later this week in the Gulf. It may not BE Ivan, but it seems to have spun off from it.


I think the phrase being used by the NWS mets is "Remnants of Ivan".

Not Ivan - just the remnants - a piece.
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#18 Postby Ivanova » Mon Sep 20, 2004 8:45 am

Wow... look at this...

Remnants of hurricane Ivan coming in from the east into Florida.
Remnants of hurricane Javier coming in from the west into Texas.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html


Here's another image

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html


:cool:


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#19 Postby mascpa » Mon Sep 20, 2004 8:48 am

Okay, agreed Ivan is dead. But his ghost is haunting SE Fl this morning. We really don't need any extra rain right now. What a yucky morning. Great day to roll over and go back to sleep.
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Re: Why is everyone captivated on Ivan? It's dead!!!

#20 Postby Stormcenter » Mon Sep 20, 2004 8:56 am

TLHR wrote:Enough!!!

If you can help me spot the remains of Ivan so I could better understand your wish-casting, please do so!

http://www.wunderground.com/global/Regi ... llite.html

All I see is a cold front draped from Canada to The Bahamas.



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