Wow, what Ivan has never looked this good

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Wow, what Ivan has never looked this good

#1 Postby logybogy » Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:23 pm

wow. He looks exactly like Isabel when she was a Cat 5. :eek:

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#2 Postby Scorpion » Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:26 pm

That looks like an old loop. Newest ones look ALOT better.
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#3 Postby Scorpion » Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:27 pm

Never mind, it was updated. Your first pic was kinda old though.
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#4 Postby Guest » Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:28 pm

he looks like a category 5. huge eye, deep convection wrapping again,
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#5 Postby opera ghost » Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:28 pm

I jsut made a similar comment to my husband about his visable presentation- the twisters in the center....

This is like watching a nightmare.
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#6 Postby Tri-State_1925 » Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:30 pm

The only difference being that this storm is doing this heading into the continental US.

What else would you expect from a storm with a male name?
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#7 Postby paul e » Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:35 pm

From the latest shots, with the BIG eye, any chance this thing is going annular?
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#8 Postby TSmith274 » Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:52 pm

Jesus, Gulfport MS all the way to the FL state line will be devastated. I really hope none of you are riding this thing out too close to the coast. Good luck.
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#9 Postby Psychonaut777 » Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:53 pm

what does annular mean?
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#10 Postby dennis1x1 » Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:54 pm

looks real good......not as good as "ever".....the solid reds and yellows while down by jamaica was better.
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#11 Postby nolecaster » Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:08 pm

Yea, what does annular mean..
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#12 Postby dennis1x1 » Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:10 pm

annular = buzzword for maintaining a huge eye.
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#13 Postby bahamaswx » Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:15 pm

Annular hurricanes tend to be very intense hurricanes with abnormally large eyes, surrounded by a large area of deep convection (CDO) and very little outflow features beyond the CDO.

Recent examples: Alex (I believe... didn't watch him much), Isabel.
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#14 Postby Stephanie » Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:20 pm

opera ghost wrote:I jsut made a similar comment to my husband about his visable presentation- the twisters in the center....

This is like watching a nightmare.


Yep! :eek: :( We're witnessing history in the making. That satelite just gave me a chill!
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#15 Postby calidoug » Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:22 pm

No, "annular" is not just a buzzword for maintaining a huge eye.

There are a number of qualitative differences.

See this paper:

http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~kossin/articl ... arhurr.pdf
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#16 Postby frankthetank » Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:24 pm

Annular--DT over at wxrisk was talking about IVAN being annular, thats why the dry air hardly made him burp...go have a read if you want wxrisk.com...
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#17 Postby isobar » Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:41 pm

Isabel was the strongest annular on record. If Ivan qualifies, there's a record that didn't last long.
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#18 Postby dennis1x1 » Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:43 pm

thanks doug...i apologize for belittling the term.....and will read the paper......am i right in deducing that ivan isnt annular?
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#19 Postby jpigott » Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:46 pm

latest satellite image - it appears as if the deep convection is starting to wrap around the east section of the storm also
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#20 Postby bahamaswx » Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:48 pm

isobar wrote:Isabel was the strongest annular on record. If Ivan qualifies, there's a record that didn't last long.


No really. Regular hurricanes can transition into annular canes... and vice versa. He certainly wasn't annular anytime in the Caribbean.
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