One of our board members has family members in trouble...
http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=43405
Please read this and offer good suggestions if you have any (e.g. the best place to go in the bulding, etc) ... I'm not an expert, so I dont have any....
PLEASE READ IF YOU KNOW A LOT ABOUT STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY
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Generally, in a well-constructed building, the recommendations for a strong but not devastating tornado would be about the same as for a severe hurricane.
Get to a small interior space that has solidly constructed walls around it, often that might be an interior bathroom. The advantage of a bathroom is that plumbing and the reinforcement because of the plumbing may make that space stronger than others. Wear multiple layers of clothing, the more the better. If you have a helmet, wear it. Wrap youself in blankets or bedspreads, and if in a bathroom, use the tub as a bunker. It could get very hairy in a category 5 hurricane. consider having a bunch of pillows or even a small mattress there for additional protection from collapse and windblown objects. Keep everyone calm, and try to keep the space closed to any outside winds. Use something to barricade the door securely from potential battering. Strongly consider nailing the door shut, with an ample number of nails.
Those are only brief recommendations. There are many factors to consider in a hurricane: tidal surge, flood waters, mud slides, many other things. Keep your wits about you, and never venture outdoors during a lull in the storm. Keep in shelter until the hurricane has passed entirely. If you have sturdy-soled shoes they are much recommended over sneakers and lightweight footgear; in the aftermatch you could run a board splinter or nail spike deep into your foot, and medical assistance may not be available for a long time after the storm.
And wish for good luck, and don't drink alcohol. You will need your wits with you at all times, and you may need to be the person to save others' lives when everyone else has lost their sanity.
Good luck to those in danger now. Remember always that the danger is not just during the storm, but continues thereafter. Use ample caution at all times, and don't take any unnecessary risks.
Get to a small interior space that has solidly constructed walls around it, often that might be an interior bathroom. The advantage of a bathroom is that plumbing and the reinforcement because of the plumbing may make that space stronger than others. Wear multiple layers of clothing, the more the better. If you have a helmet, wear it. Wrap youself in blankets or bedspreads, and if in a bathroom, use the tub as a bunker. It could get very hairy in a category 5 hurricane. consider having a bunch of pillows or even a small mattress there for additional protection from collapse and windblown objects. Keep everyone calm, and try to keep the space closed to any outside winds. Use something to barricade the door securely from potential battering. Strongly consider nailing the door shut, with an ample number of nails.
Those are only brief recommendations. There are many factors to consider in a hurricane: tidal surge, flood waters, mud slides, many other things. Keep your wits about you, and never venture outdoors during a lull in the storm. Keep in shelter until the hurricane has passed entirely. If you have sturdy-soled shoes they are much recommended over sneakers and lightweight footgear; in the aftermatch you could run a board splinter or nail spike deep into your foot, and medical assistance may not be available for a long time after the storm.
And wish for good luck, and don't drink alcohol. You will need your wits with you at all times, and you may need to be the person to save others' lives when everyone else has lost their sanity.
Good luck to those in danger now. Remember always that the danger is not just during the storm, but continues thereafter. Use ample caution at all times, and don't take any unnecessary risks.
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I hope I am not too late in providing you this information. Here is a link to the US Embassy in Montego Bay. It is the closest location to Negril Bay, about 20 miles. Urge them to contact the Embassy immediately and advise them of their situation. They should be able to provide assistance, and possibly more secure refuge. If you are unable to reach them, have either yourself or another family member contact the Embassy. Let's at least get them to their first anniversary before they start pulling stupid stunts.
http://usembassy.state.gov/kingston/wwwhfacsmbay.html
The telephone number is (876) 952-0160.
Robert Garth
St. James Place, 2nd Floor
Gloucester Avenue
Montego Bay, St. James
Jamaica, West Indies
Tel: (876)952-0160, Fax: (876)952-5050
eMail: usconsagency.mobay@cwjamaica.com
http://usembassy.state.gov/kingston/wwwhfacsmbay.html
The telephone number is (876) 952-0160.
Robert Garth
St. James Place, 2nd Floor
Gloucester Avenue
Montego Bay, St. James
Jamaica, West Indies
Tel: (876)952-0160, Fax: (876)952-5050
eMail: usconsagency.mobay@cwjamaica.com
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This article offers a valuable critique of "duck and cover" in collasping buildings and presents the Triangle of Life technique to protect yourself. I don't see why it can't be applied to hurricane force winds. Collapsings building are collapsing. I hope this helps.
Gigi
* * * * EXTRACT FROM DOUG COPP'S ARTICLE ON THE "TRIANGLE OF LIFE", Edited by Larry Linn for MAA Safety Committee brief on 4/13/04.
My name is Doug Copp. I am the Rescue Chief and Disaster Manager of the American Rescue Team International (ARTI), the world's most experienced rescue team. The information in this article will save lives in an earthquake.
I have crawled inside 875 collapsed buildings, worked with rescue teams from 60 countries, founded rescue teams in several countries, and I am a member of many rescue teams from many countries. I was the United Nations expert in Disaster Mitigation (UNX051 -UNIENET) for two years. I have worked at every major disaster in the world since 1985, except for simultaneous disasters.
http://omega.twoday.net/stories/308957
Gigi
* * * * EXTRACT FROM DOUG COPP'S ARTICLE ON THE "TRIANGLE OF LIFE", Edited by Larry Linn for MAA Safety Committee brief on 4/13/04.
My name is Doug Copp. I am the Rescue Chief and Disaster Manager of the American Rescue Team International (ARTI), the world's most experienced rescue team. The information in this article will save lives in an earthquake.
I have crawled inside 875 collapsed buildings, worked with rescue teams from 60 countries, founded rescue teams in several countries, and I am a member of many rescue teams from many countries. I was the United Nations expert in Disaster Mitigation (UNX051 -UNIENET) for two years. I have worked at every major disaster in the world since 1985, except for simultaneous disasters.
http://omega.twoday.net/stories/308957
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Steve Cosby
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I was about to post it...
The resort has told them to stay in their room and has not answered any questions about the shelters. Supposedly the hotel has reinforced glass and is made of brick. My wife and I are incredibly frustrated with the whole thing as the father of the cousin is not overly concerned and did not pass along any of the phone nubers or information from here. All we can do is hope for the best and hope that Sandals Resort actually knows what they are doing.
I will let you know if I hear anything else. Thanks to everyone for your thoughts and prayers on this.
The resort has told them to stay in their room and has not answered any questions about the shelters. Supposedly the hotel has reinforced glass and is made of brick. My wife and I are incredibly frustrated with the whole thing as the father of the cousin is not overly concerned and did not pass along any of the phone nubers or information from here. All we can do is hope for the best and hope that Sandals Resort actually knows what they are doing.
I will let you know if I hear anything else. Thanks to everyone for your thoughts and prayers on this.
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Steve Cosby
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Geezus
Rob Beaux wrote:I was about to post it...
The resort has told them to stay in their room and has not answered any questions about the shelters. Supposedly the hotel has reinforced glass and is made of brick. My wife and I are incredibly frustrated with the whole thing as the father of the cousin is not overly concerned and did not pass along any of the phone nubers or information from here. All we can do is hope for the best and hope that Sandals Resort actually knows what they are doing.
I will let you know if I hear anything else. Thanks to everyone for your thoughts and prayers on this.
Amazing. Unbelievable. (words can't express it)
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