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#1601 Postby Anonymous » Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:58 am

Hurricane season is always interesting and it's nice to learn all the things you can about 'canes on this site.

But FOUR hurricanes hitting Florida is ridiculous. It's insane.

If I lived in south Florida, I'd go out right now and buy plywood, calmly board up my home real tight then calmly head north and drive til I hit Indiana and find a nice hotel and hole up for a couple weeks.

It's impossible to ride out a Category 5 hurricane. It's even crazier to wait til the last minute to try and get out. I'd hate to get caught in traffic with that monster Cat 5 'cane bearing down on me.

This is a crazy hurricane season. Three big canes in Florida already, and it's ONLY September 9th!!! Now a monster Cat 5 Ivan may hit poor Florida.

May God have mercy and shear that thing down to a tropical depression.

No one needs it.

ENOUGH ALREADY. I can't even watch the news anymore, it just ain't normal, all they talk about is hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!!
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#1602 Postby btsgmdad » Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:59 am

Folks, these only come around once every few years. For those in his path, Prepare and Flee! For those not in his path, pray that all are spared the wrath of Ivan the terrible! ImageImage
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Slowing Down?

#1603 Postby MWatkins » Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:59 am

Cat 5 or not...the fact that Ivan is only at 69.5 now implies that the hurricane may be slowing down...in fact that position puts it about half the forward speed of the previous 4 fixes.

As coldfront mentioned in Team Speak tonight...slowing down may be suggesting a change in track.

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#1604 Postby chris_fit » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:00 am

agreed
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#1605 Postby MBismyPlayground » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:01 am

What does lightening in the eyewall mean? It was just announced on TWC .
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#1606 Postby STORMSURGE » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:01 am

As a travis tritt song once said...T R O U B L E
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#1607 Postby caneseddy » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:01 am

I'm not totally convinced Ivan will make this turn..the way the GFDL is taking the storm, it would have to make a sharp NW turn before the sun is up and such a large storm, it's not probable that it will not do it but the storm is moving WNW according to NHC so if it's a wobble then we're ok in South Florida; however, if it continues WNW and if in fact it slows down as NHC says it is forecast to do, then i would be concerned about South Florida and the keys

We'll wait to see what NH says at 5am

I still think this is a GOM storm into the Panhandle and everybody better pray that this storm weakens before landfall because this is a monster of a storm :(
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#1608 Postby Sean in New Orleans » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:01 am

MBismyPlayground wrote:What does lightening in the eyewall mean? It was just announced on TWC .

Strengthening.
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#1609 Postby yoda » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:01 am

What's interesting to me here is look at when Isabel became a CAT 5 and now Ivan. Again look at the letters.. I. Again, both will and did hit the US pretty hard. The two became CAT 5 in September. The sustained winds are now equal to each other... (for now! :cry: )

Ack.. TOO MANY SIMILARITIES!!!

And to add in to Don's research.. this is the second straight year of a CAT 5 Hurricane...
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Re: Slowing Down?

#1610 Postby yoda » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:02 am

MWatkins wrote:Cat 5 or not...the fact that Ivan is only at 69.5 now implies that the hurricane may be slowing down...in fact that position puts it about half the forward speed of the previous 4 fixes.

As coldfront mentioned in Team Speak tonight...slowing down may be suggesting a change in track.

MW



Agreed Mike.
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#1611 Postby NorthGaWeather » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:02 am

I never said I considered the Euro a great model. I'm more in line with the Canadian and UKMET.
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VORTEX MSG

#1612 Postby hurricanemike » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:02 am

479
URNT12 KNHC 090527
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 09/0527Z
B. 13 DEG 39 MIN N
69 DEG 25 MIN W
C. 700 MB 2427 M
D. NA
E. NA
F. 097 DEG 154 KT
G. 358 DEG 6 NM
H. 925 MB
I. 9 C/ 3106 M
J. 21 C/ 3048 M
K. 11 C/ NA
L. CLOSED WALL
M. E09/13/10
N. 12345/7
O. 0.1/1 NM
P. AF866 1009A IVAN OB 03
MAX FL WIND 154 KT N QUAD 0525Z. FREQUENT LIGHTNING IN EYEWALL.
HAIL OUTBOUND THROUGH SOUTHEAST EYEWALL.
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#1613 Postby Sean in New Orleans » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:02 am

Now would be a better time for a change--maybe it could miss Florida all together......We'll just have to wait and see.
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CAT 5 Vortex Message... very unique

#1614 Postby senorpepr » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:02 am

VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 09/0527Z
B. 13 DEG 39 MIN N
69 DEG 25 MIN W
C. 700 MB 2427 M
D. NA
E. NA
F. 097 DEG 154 KT
G. 358 DEG 6 NM
H. 925 MB
I. 9 C/ 3106 M
J. 21 C/ 3048 M
K. 11 C/ NA
L. CLOSED WALL
M. E09/13/10
N. 12345/7
O. 0.1/1 NM
P. AF866 1009A IVAN OB 03
MAX FL WIND 154 KT N QUAD 0525Z. FREQUENT LIGHTNING IN EYEWALL.
HAIL OUTBOUND THROUGH SOUTHEAST EYEWALL.
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#1615 Postby yoda » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:03 am

NorthGaWeather wrote:I never said I considered the Euro a great model. I'm more in line with the Canadian and UKMET.


Ah ok... just making sure there! :D
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#1616 Postby btsgmdad » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:04 am

Warren Madden on TWC just mentioned this as well. He said he would be heading to Biloxi today to fly missions into the storm.
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Re: CAT 5 Vortex Message... very unique

#1617 Postby yoda » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:04 am

senorpepr wrote:VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 09/0527Z
B. 13 DEG 39 MIN N
69 DEG 25 MIN W
C. 700 MB 2427 M
D. NA
E. NA
F. 097 DEG 154 KT
G. 358 DEG 6 NM
H. 925 MB
I. 9 C/ 3106 M
J. 21 C/ 3048 M
K. 11 C/ NA
L. CLOSED WALL
M. E09/13/10
N. 12345/7
O. 0.1/1 NM
P. AF866 1009A IVAN OB 03
MAX FL WIND 154 KT N QUAD 0525Z. FREQUENT LIGHTNING IN EYEWALL.
HAIL OUTBOUND THROUGH SOUTHEAST EYEWALL.



VERY SCARY... hold on.. 154 kt highest max flt wind = 177 MPH!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
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#1618 Postby Pebbles » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:06 am

It does convert down to 160mph at the surface...but mentioned this chatting...can you imagine that plane ride??!!! YOWZERS
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#1619 Postby mobilebay » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:06 am

MIke the 2400 fix was near 68.1W, the 0100 fix is near 69.5. Not much slowing there to me. A degree and a half in 6 H. IMO>
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#1620 Postby Stratosphere747 » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:07 am

Senor....How much stronger could it really get?? Being that is has not found the warmest SST's...
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