Is anyone looking at Ivan like a real living beast?

[skysummit]

I usually do with every storm, however, Ivan has some sort of soul to it. It just seems like he will defy every model that comes out. It seems like he will bust through any trough, or really any high pressure system. I don't know about him. He's definately a living beast.

[Derecho]

I usually do with every storm, however, Ivan has some sort of soul to it. It just seems like he will defy every model that comes out. It seems like he will bust through any trough, or really any high pressure system. I don't know about him. He's definately a living beast.

Storms have been quite well behaved this year track-wise, including the strong ones, despite the best efforts of people to get them to massively deviate off the model consensus or the NHC track.

Ivan is a mindless collection of air and water vapor being steered by the flow around it.

Of course, it's quite difficult to accurately measure and model that flow around it, and that's the trick

[rainstorm]

i see death

[BReb]

"Ivan is a mindless collection of air and water vapor being steered by the flow around it. "

I recall a few years ago the Weekly World News published a photo of Satan's face in the eye of a large hurricance. So that particular publication may disagree with your assessment. They also reported that a black hole in a nearby galaxy contained "Satan's butt" so old Lucifer apparently gets around.

[Downdraft]

Come on people don't personalize a hurricane. This is a storm not a beast. I say that because what your feeling is very normal. You need to personalize your fear. Ivan doesn't think, it follows the laws of physics and it goes where those laws allow it. Do NOT take this storm personally that's bad for your mental health. If you pray then pray it stays away if you don't then wish it goes away. Ivan is not coming to get anybody it's just doing what hurricanes do. It is man that defies nature and every now and then nature feels the need to remind us that our existence here is governed by the same natural laws as anything else. A tough lesson to be learned for sure but nothing personal in it.
The Spanish were great record keepers and Ponce de Leon wrote to Spain that he could not understand why the "natives" chose to live inland and not on the coast line where the weather was more temperate. He learned the hard way and we forgot the lesson that lesson also.

[tronbunny]

I'm with downdraft. He's right,you know. You shouldn't be
a f r a i d . Storms come, storms go. It's a part of nature.

[Cape Verde]

We shouldn't have ever started giving these storms human names. It personalizes them.<P>I think we could raise public awareness even more by giving them names like Hurricane Herpes or Hurricane Chlamydia. <P>That would get their attention.

[clueless newbie]

Ivan is a mindless collection of air and water vapor being steered by the flow around it.

I see hurricanes as a primitive life form (probably simpler then simplest bacteria) built from air and water trying to sustain itself in mostly adverse environment. Fortunately, on Earth the environment is deadly enough for hurricanes to not have a chance to fully 'live'.

The Great Red Spot on Jupiter, though, that is another matter. There the storms eat each other, live hundreds of years and do all kinds of crazy things we do not have yet clue about.

[NFLnut]

Didn't someone ask this question about 30 times while we awaited Frances?! Sheez.

[dhweather]

We shouldn't have ever started giving these storms human names. It personalizes them.<P>I think we could raise public awareness even more by giving them names like Hurricane Herpes or Hurricane Chlamydia. <P>That would get their attention.

Well, they could use names from "adult film stars" instead.

That would get attention!!

[quickychick]

Attributing human qualities to a storm when you're worried about it or interested in it is human nature. Not necessarily a bad thing. If it makes people feel better to pray against it, fine. If it makes people feel better to taunt it, fine. If it makes people feel better to dance around the living room strung out on coffee and Storm2K in hopes of voodooing the storm away, fine.

Mother Nature will have the last say. She doesn't really care how we come to grips with it, and neither should we.

-qc