IVAN HEADING NORTHWEST???

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IVAN HEADING NORTHWEST???

#1 Postby hial2 » Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:34 am

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html


Last few IR seem to indicate so...Was this forecasted???
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#2 Postby Matthew5 » Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:35 am

IF so the Ecmwf is doing good :eek:
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#3 Postby ericinmia » Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:37 am

it appears that way... i am checking into some NRL sat loops that have better perspective...
-Eric

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Check this: It is a Def. NW movement for now at least!
CLICK MOST RECENT BUTTON & set to LARGE
http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tc-bin/tc_ho ... 93E.INVEST,
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#4 Postby Thunder44 » Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:38 am

There was an eclispe for a while so it's hard to tell a motion from just two recent images.
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Re: IVAN HEADING NORTHWEST???

#5 Postby mobilebay » Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:41 am

hial2 wrote:http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/float2-ir4-loop.html


Last few IR seem to indicate so...Was this forecasted???

NO. It looks like the southern part of the Cane is eroding. The recon fixes are about 5 hours apart and only show about a .4 degree north motion.Also, the last recon report was at 0100. Only 45 Minutes before that sattelite.
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#6 Postby southerngale » Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:44 am

I guess I'm blind. I don't see a NW motion. 8-)
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Re: IVAN HEADING NORTHWEST???

#7 Postby ericinmia » Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:45 am

mobilebay wrote:
hial2 wrote:http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/float2-ir4-loop.html


Last few IR seem to indicate so...Was this forecasted???

NO. It looks like the southern part of the Cane is eroding. The recon fixes are about 5 hours apart and only show about a .4 degree north motion.Also, the last recon report was at 0100. Only 45 Minutes before that sattelite.


If you watch my link from above... You will see the Eye, center of circulation is moving nw...
-Eric
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#8 Postby mobilebay » Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:45 am

Look at the latest floater. The southeast side of Frances is eroding. Also notice the thunderstorms developing to the east. I believe our friend Mr. ULL is starting to shear Ivan. Also there is limited outflow in that direction.
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#9 Postby hial2 » Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:47 am

Draw a line from the cane's eye before the eclipse to the latest and you will see a definite wnw/nw movement

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html
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#10 Postby southerngale » Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:47 am

I did Eric. I still don't see it.
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#11 Postby ericinmia » Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:48 am

Before Eclipse:
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After Eclipse:
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-Eric
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#12 Postby ericinmia » Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:50 am

Before Eclipse:
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After Eclipse:
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-Eric
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#13 Postby ericinmia » Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:51 am

That appears to be at least a wnw motion... This may be the start of the recurveture. Please don't let the Euro be on the money!

Here is another good angle... plot the NHC track on there, it appears to be joggin wnw to it for now. It may possibly be joggin to the north of that track!!
http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~rickk/ivan.html

-Eric
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#14 Postby Thunder44 » Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:06 am

ericinmia wrote:That appears to be at least a wnw motion... This may be the start of the recurveture. Please don't let the Euro be on the money!

Here is another good angle... plot the NHC track on there, it appears to be joggin wnw to it for now. It may possibly be joggin to the north of that track!!
http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~rickk/ivan.html

-Eric


Maybe just a wobble. :D
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#15 Postby WeatherNLU » Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:41 am

If that's NW, then I need to get a lesson in directions.
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#16 Postby Derek Ortt » Wed Sep 08, 2004 4:09 am

we should not focus on wobbles

this storm has been wobbling a couple of tenths north, only to drop them. Go by recon fixes, this is still moving to the west
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#17 Postby arlwx » Wed Sep 08, 2004 4:37 am

If this storm curves so that early Saturday it approaches 15 north and 72 west, my SWAG would be that it misses FL ((good)) and hits further up the east coast in the Carolinas (which may be bad for us, as we will still be waterlogged from Frances).

However, it is still too early for FL to stick a fork in this storm yet... wait until the weekend.
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#18 Postby arlwx » Wed Sep 08, 2004 4:50 am

oops, mental math mistake, late Thursday...

But it may not recurve/slow down that much. A slower recurve would send it to Jamaica ((or possibly just south of there)) on Saturday and then we are possibly into the Charley scenario again.

It all depends on the westward speed of Ivan.
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#19 Postby Nimbus » Wed Sep 08, 2004 4:57 am

Looks like this was just a wobble before an eyewall replacement cycle. Track does not look like it has changed that much. On her present heading it appears she would cross 15 N a little further west near 74 or 75 W.
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#20 Postby arlwx » Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:03 am

Yes, that would be the Jamaica-brushing track.
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