I work at Wal-Mart and before that Winn-Dixie. I've seen the rush to get supplies when a storm. I will always be that stores WILL run out of stuff.
But back to the topic at hand, they are right that they want to feel the excitement of a storm. Just seeing the rush of people getting supplies was enough for me. I can tell you all kind of stories.
Why would anyone wishcast
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Canelaw99
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I'll be honest, I'm hoping that Ivan will turn this way, if he has his sights set on the state of FL. Honestly, through Charley & Frances, Miami-Dade and the Keys faired extemely well, so we could take the brunt of a storm much better than basically any other part of FL. Again, that's IF Ivan feels like he wants to come this way. I really wouldn't wish him on the rest of FL at this point....
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People change when disaster threatens. When we have a storm threaten it seems like everyone gets friendlier -- strangers talk at the grocery store and at home depot -EVERYONE in the community has something in common. I develped an addiction to hurricanes after going through Fredrick. I wish that I wasn't so obsessed, but I am. when I worked I used to get on the intercom and announce hurricane updates. My friends would get so mad and say that I wanted the storm to come. In no way did I want a major hurricane--maybe a little tropical storm - but NOT a hurricane. Most people don't track storms from Africa - they get involved much later in the game. I was tracking Frances when Charlie was making landfall and it frustrated me that TWC wasn't saying much about Frances. I do think it is a sort of addiction, but it does not mean that I want the storm to come to my area. I have gotten almost nothing done in the last two weeks because of Frances and now Ivan. I think I should probably be in treatment since this does affect my normal daily activities. LOL
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-removed- could be a result of a simple lack of knowledge rather than actually inviting disaster.
Why do people ride rollercoasters, or drive their cars too fast (tell me YOU'VE NEVER exceeded the speed limit), some people cheat on their taxes. Some folks indulge in extreme sports. Somehow they think it makes them feel more alive to experience the ultimate and then talk about their experience later. It makes them a part of some secret society or something.
Why do people ride rollercoasters, or drive their cars too fast (tell me YOU'VE NEVER exceeded the speed limit), some people cheat on their taxes. Some folks indulge in extreme sports. Somehow they think it makes them feel more alive to experience the ultimate and then talk about their experience later. It makes them a part of some secret society or something.
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alicia-w wrote:-removed- could be a result of a simple lack of knowledge rather than actually inviting disaster.
Why do people ride rollercoasters, or drive their cars too fast (tell me YOU'VE NEVER exceeded the speed limit), some people cheat on their taxes. Some folks indulge in extreme sports. Somehow they think it makes them feel more alive to experience the ultimate and then talk about their experience later. It makes them a part of some secret society or something.
Lack of knowledge? Some people just enjoy the rush.
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bahamaswx wrote:alicia-w wrote:-removed- could be a result of a simple lack of knowledge rather than actually inviting disaster.
Why do people ride rollercoasters, or drive their cars too fast (tell me YOU'VE NEVER exceeded the speed limit), some people cheat on their taxes. Some folks indulge in extreme sports. Somehow they think it makes them feel more alive to experience the ultimate and then talk about their experience later. It makes them a part of some secret society or something.
Lack of knowledge? Some people just enjoy the rush.
You didnt read the whole post, did you?
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otowntiger
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No amount of -removed- will ever have an impact
The bottom line is that NO amount of wischcasting will ever have ANY impact on where a storm goes. To see some of these posts and others chastising those who do, you'd think they held some kind of power and influence on where a storm went! LOL!
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alicia-w wrote:bahamaswx wrote:alicia-w wrote:-removed- could be a result of a simple lack of knowledge rather than actually inviting disaster.
Why do people ride rollercoasters, or drive their cars too fast (tell me YOU'VE NEVER exceeded the speed limit), some people cheat on their taxes. Some folks indulge in extreme sports. Somehow they think it makes them feel more alive to experience the ultimate and then talk about their experience later. It makes them a part of some secret society or something.
Lack of knowledge? Some people just enjoy the rush.
You didnt read the whole post, did you?
"Some people just enjoy the rush"
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It's interesting to watch the storm develop and speculate how strong it will get and where it will go, no question of that.
And I don't really mind getting hit with a weak category 1.
But when we are talking anything above that, all I care about is it hits somewhere else. Afterwards I see the figures for $ damage and deaths, but it doesn't really click with me unless I know somebody there.
I guess that's why this board is a good thing, in a way I do know somebody there, so I care if it rips up Barbados or wherever.
And I don't really mind getting hit with a weak category 1.
But when we are talking anything above that, all I care about is it hits somewhere else. Afterwards I see the figures for $ damage and deaths, but it doesn't really click with me unless I know somebody there.
I guess that's why this board is a good thing, in a way I do know somebody there, so I care if it rips up Barbados or wherever.
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Re: No amount of -removed- will ever have an impact
otowntiger wrote:The bottom line is that NO amount of wischcasting will ever have ANY impact on where a storm goes. To see some of these posts and others chastising those who do, you'd think they held some kind of power and influence on where a storm went! LOL!
good point.
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Humans are drawn to watch destruction. It's why 99% of the people on this forum are here, despite not being able to face up to it.
Well, then count me in the 1%, and I'd wager there are a LOT more like me than you think. I come here because I'm trying to protect three separate properties I own the best I can while juggling work and caring for my 81 year old mother. I come here to try to get some insight to help me manage what will happen and what might happen.
But I have learned that a lot of this forum, especially the people I disagree with and the chicken littles, is just noise. I'm hoping as I come here more often I can distinguish the noise from the signal and let the people who enjoy disaster or think a hurricane is "fun" entertain themselves. I wish the moderators would put up a playpen forum for these children so that they didn't disturb the adults who have responsibilities and real reasons for needing to know facts. Things like having to evacuate an elderly parent with special needs, for instance, and find shelter for pets. And how to evacuate when all the state is in a traffic jam and there's really nowhere to go, because the whole state is going to be affected, and who knows where it's going to hit.
I am sorry, but I really have little patience for people looking for the excitement and the rush. I have too much at stake.
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USCG_Hurricane_Watcher
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But what about the people who feel that it will not happen to them and do not prepare. Every June we get our supplies, but our family and friends in the rest of Florida feel they do not have to because hurricanes only hit south Florida. Every time a hurricane is close enough to make national news, my in-laws tell us to come to Orlando where it is safe or to their beach house in Daytona. I would rather stay in my house that is made from concrete block with shutters then theirs that doesn't have shutters and is probably wood frame. My best friend who is one of the smartest and most safety conscious people I know, lives across the street from the beach in North Florida and she doesn't have shutters. When I was visiting her several years ago I was surprised that they were building wood frame houses 3 miles from the beach. I hope now the rest of the state adopts the South Florida Building Code.
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GalvestonDuck wrote:Because they're used to disasters and the aftermath being resolved in 2 hours or less due to overexposure to the Hollywood idea of what a disaster is.
Too true. The storm passes but your life doesn't just start over again where it left off. Take Frances. ONLY a Cat 2 storm, right? Well, there's the incredible cleanup and the fact that the landscape won't look the same for a long time, maybe years. Lots of folks lost or are losing money, jobs, property, etc. Schools are closed. No power or phone service. Backed up sewers. Hour long lines at the gas stations-if you can get gas at all.
This ain't an episode of FRIENDS, folks, where everyone hugs at the end and it comes out okay. The world before Frances here in Palm Beach County is a lot different than the world after Frances.
Wishcast a storm to your location? Come on over here, to Palm Beach, Martin or St. Lucie County and help out for a few days first. See for yourself. Then decide if a few hours of wind and rain is worth the thrill.
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Maybe we can learn from the innocent/ignorant...
My son is 10yo. He was scared to tears 3 days before Charley. He went around in a snit, saying "if we live through it." All while I had to teach him about hurricane history in central FL. He calmed a bit, but with every thump and bump on the house during the storm he jumped and asked "what was that?". He lived through it, and didn't hear of anyone who was physically hurt. When Frances was on the way, he was much less anxious. He doesn't outwardly appear to care about Ivan right now. He's still anxious, you can tell by the disruptive behaviour. He does wish it would go somewhere else, though.
My son is 10yo. He was scared to tears 3 days before Charley. He went around in a snit, saying "if we live through it." All while I had to teach him about hurricane history in central FL. He calmed a bit, but with every thump and bump on the house during the storm he jumped and asked "what was that?". He lived through it, and didn't hear of anyone who was physically hurt. When Frances was on the way, he was much less anxious. He doesn't outwardly appear to care about Ivan right now. He's still anxious, you can tell by the disruptive behaviour. He does wish it would go somewhere else, though.
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Derek Ortt wrote:many who wishcast canes happen to be teens.
I have to admit, I did a bit of -removed- back in the day when I was growing up, but then I grew up and will never wish a major hurricane upon anyone
Just wanted to point out, it is many not all. I am 18, I am watching and dreading Ivan coming up the pipeline right now. On the grand scheme of things, I do believe that a weak storm (like a TS or low cat 1) CAN be good for a community as a wake-up call (Tampa is an example, our infrastructure was completely unprepared, this is the 52nd hour for us without power, and I start school tomorrow AM!) and it shows people just the slightest taste of how bad things can be, and how they are ignorantly ignoring the problems.
On the other hand, FL is in a state of chaos right now, becuase it seems most didn't see this season coming this strong this early. Ivan is just the next, and there will probably be more beind it, and to be honest, I don't think it would take much more than another a major hurricane hitting Florida to impact every single person in this country. Right now, a few may escape the consequences of the current state of FL, but if anything else severe happens, its going to cause havoc here, and be a serious draw on the nation.
That said, I also think there is a tendancy (I don't know what it's called but I saw the name on this board) for people who personalize the storms to attract the path to themselves. It's not as if they want it, they just inhernetly believe that they will get hit this time... dunno why.
I saw the NOGAPs model of Ivan coming RIGHT up the bay though, and my heart skipped a beat... aie yie yie!
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I really dont understand why people live in Florida at all and submt themselves to the frightening episode of a hurricane (or several) there are plenty of beautiful states that dont have these storms and are much safer (and CHEAPER) to live in.
I still find it somewhat odd (dont kill me) that people in FLorida are actually surprised when they lose everything to a hurricane. the same goes for any near coastal communities in hurricane prone areas. What do you expect? Again, I hope Im not offending anyone, but Im really concerned about the amount of people who pack Florida's coasts many without even realizing they are putting themselves in the future path of extremely dangerous and destructive storms. All this for the view I suppose, but that view would not be worth the hopelessness one feels when they dont have a home anymore. Is it really worth it?
I still find it somewhat odd (dont kill me) that people in FLorida are actually surprised when they lose everything to a hurricane. the same goes for any near coastal communities in hurricane prone areas. What do you expect? Again, I hope Im not offending anyone, but Im really concerned about the amount of people who pack Florida's coasts many without even realizing they are putting themselves in the future path of extremely dangerous and destructive storms. All this for the view I suppose, but that view would not be worth the hopelessness one feels when they dont have a home anymore. Is it really worth it?
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