Could Francis wind up being just that?
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The worst Hurricane EVER????
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c5Camille
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Josephine96
c5Camille wrote:nah.... the worst hurricanes ever happened before
radar... sattilite views... cars, trains...
people would wake up in the morning.... look
at the water and tyhe sky and say... Looks like
we'll get some bad weather today...
think about something like this with no warning...
YIKES ! ! !
I've thought about that. Could you imagine it jus starts raining, and the wind picks up, and before you know it....everythings underwater and the wind is howling!!! They probably thought it was the hand of God!!!
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GalvestonDuck
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It's not like we're really "proud" here in Galveston of holding the title of worst US natural disaster. But believe me, I pray to God nothing is ever as deadly as that was.
There may be storms that are JUST as destructive and damaging, if not more (remember, this was once a booming financial center back then -- "The Wall Street of the South").
If by "worst" you mean deadliest -- no, I doubt Frances will do that. If you mean costliest, like Andrew or Allison -- that could be possible. But I'd take the economic losses over loss of life anyday and wouldn't call it anything close to the "worst."
There may be storms that are JUST as destructive and damaging, if not more (remember, this was once a booming financial center back then -- "The Wall Street of the South").
If by "worst" you mean deadliest -- no, I doubt Frances will do that. If you mean costliest, like Andrew or Allison -- that could be possible. But I'd take the economic losses over loss of life anyday and wouldn't call it anything close to the "worst."
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c5Camille
It is quite possible that pre-contact North America experienced a loss of life worse than Galveston at some point or another. Think farms, think fishing, think the old native civilization cultural centers... then think a megahurricane taking out several of those centers. And the resultant aftercasualties not just from the usual ((bad water, spoiled food, weakened systems)) but as most of the specialists in certain aspects of life within the tribes ((e.g. the best times to hunt)) had gotten killed off...
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Advances in weather forecasting and technology have lowered the death tolls from hurricanes in the U.S. significantly.
Although high tolls still occur. Floyd killed 56 in the U.S. This was the highest amount of direct U.S. fatalities from a hurricane since Hurricane Agnes in 1972 (134).
Charley probably would have had a similar death toll to Audrey in 1957 if it was not for the radar, satellites forecasting we have today. (Although they had radar in 1957. I have a radar pic of Audrey making landfall)
Audrey is probably the greatest example of public apathy to a hurricane. Many were holding off preparations and went to bed thinking they had another day to prepare. Some thought Audrey would hit further east.
Overnight, Audrey increased to a Category 4 (only June hurricane to become a Category 4) and also increased in speed.
Audrey made landfall near the TX/LA border and sent a 20ft storm surge into Cameron Parish. At landfall, sustained winds were 140 mph and the pressure was 945 mb (27.91).
Audrey was the first major hurricane to strike Cameron Parish since 1918.
Audrey left 518 dead in Cameron Parish. In Louisiana, 5 others died. 20 died in Texas, including 9 on a barge offshore. As the remnants of Audrey moved NE up into Canada, 30 more lives were lost. With a total of 573 dead, Audrey was the deadliest hurricane to hit the U.S. in the latter half of the 20th century.
Racial tension was very high in the South during the late 1950s. Because 90% of the fatalities in Cameron Parish were African-Americans, organizations involved in alerting the public about the threat of hurricanes came under attack. The Cameron Police department and the National Weather Bureau were accused of bigotry, willful disregard for public safety, and mass murder.
However, an investigation concluded that there were two reasons for the high death toll.
1. Local TV and radio stations did not broadcast warnings in their entirety. This led to a misinformed public.
2. Many did not heed evacuation orders. Survivors said that there had been uncertainty as to where Audrey would make landfall, despite the fact that Audrey was a well-tracked storm.
It's kind of ironic that when people talk about the worst hurricanes to hit the U.S., the ones that are often mentioned are Camille, Hugo, Andrew, Donna, etc. (Which were definitely bad storms)
Yet nobody seems to mention Audrey.
Although high tolls still occur. Floyd killed 56 in the U.S. This was the highest amount of direct U.S. fatalities from a hurricane since Hurricane Agnes in 1972 (134).
Charley probably would have had a similar death toll to Audrey in 1957 if it was not for the radar, satellites forecasting we have today. (Although they had radar in 1957. I have a radar pic of Audrey making landfall)
Audrey is probably the greatest example of public apathy to a hurricane. Many were holding off preparations and went to bed thinking they had another day to prepare. Some thought Audrey would hit further east.
Overnight, Audrey increased to a Category 4 (only June hurricane to become a Category 4) and also increased in speed.
Audrey made landfall near the TX/LA border and sent a 20ft storm surge into Cameron Parish. At landfall, sustained winds were 140 mph and the pressure was 945 mb (27.91).
Audrey was the first major hurricane to strike Cameron Parish since 1918.
Audrey left 518 dead in Cameron Parish. In Louisiana, 5 others died. 20 died in Texas, including 9 on a barge offshore. As the remnants of Audrey moved NE up into Canada, 30 more lives were lost. With a total of 573 dead, Audrey was the deadliest hurricane to hit the U.S. in the latter half of the 20th century.
Racial tension was very high in the South during the late 1950s. Because 90% of the fatalities in Cameron Parish were African-Americans, organizations involved in alerting the public about the threat of hurricanes came under attack. The Cameron Police department and the National Weather Bureau were accused of bigotry, willful disregard for public safety, and mass murder.
However, an investigation concluded that there were two reasons for the high death toll.
1. Local TV and radio stations did not broadcast warnings in their entirety. This led to a misinformed public.
2. Many did not heed evacuation orders. Survivors said that there had been uncertainty as to where Audrey would make landfall, despite the fact that Audrey was a well-tracked storm.
It's kind of ironic that when people talk about the worst hurricanes to hit the U.S., the ones that are often mentioned are Camille, Hugo, Andrew, Donna, etc. (Which were definitely bad storms)
Yet nobody seems to mention Audrey.
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Worst....
As far as US hurricanes, can't believe no one mentioned Middle Keys, 1935, Labor Day. It might not have been a densely populated area at the time, but hey, those railroad workers didn't have much warning. And given the rapid intensification, even if they knew something was coming, I seriously doubt they were expecting a storm of that magnitude.
You wonder, though, what sort of hurricane tales the Calusa and Tequesta could have told, way back in the day. Somehow, I'll bet they weathered storms better back then than we do now. Of course, they had little debris that could fly around.
You wonder, though, what sort of hurricane tales the Calusa and Tequesta could have told, way back in the day. Somehow, I'll bet they weathered storms better back then than we do now. Of course, they had little debris that could fly around.
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you know,
You know, I also find myself wondering just how far back in history the tropical Atlantic experienced hurricanes. I would like to know the date of the first-ever Atlantic Ocean hurricane.
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