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#121 Postby NorthGaWeather » Thu Aug 19, 2004 8:54 pm

Actually the rainfall RATES are high from Central Fulton County to Union County. Then another area from Central Fulton County to Macon County.
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#122 Postby PurdueWx80 » Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:00 pm

NorthGaWeather wrote:Actually the rainfall RATES are high from Central Fulton County to Union County. Then another area from Central Fulton County to Macon County.


That means nothing to me as I know nothing about the counties surrounding the Atlanta metro. Rainfall rates from this satellite are on the order off mm/hr...then they average those over the month. That sort of information isn't available from groundstations at the resolution it is from satellites. Does this make a difference or am I beating a dead horse?
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Re: Huh!!

#123 Postby califas » Fri Aug 20, 2004 5:44 am

Lindaloo wrote:
califas wrote:
Lindaloo wrote:I dont know about all of you and your locations, but down in the deep south we burn up every summer and are cold in the winter. This past week however, we have enjoyed a cool down in AUGUST!! Nothing has changed and it never will.


GREAT POST MGC!


There is always change.


Well when?? It has been this way since the day I was born. LOL!!


I don't know about MS, but here in good ole califas things have changed for the worse. Fire seasons are getting more wide spread and start earlier than usuall. So there is diffinetly change. Change always happens, it never remains constant.
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#124 Postby Lindaloo » Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:38 am

Not just in California, but Arizona too.
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#125 Postby Guest » Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:02 pm

The west is dry everyone knows that, and the southeast is wet, along with the midwest and northeast now. Some people think that the West was actualy experiencing above normal rainfall before this drought occured, so if they diod experience above normal rainfall, maybe this isn't an actual drought. But then again, I don't live out West so I'm not the best informed about their climate.
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Re: Huh!!

#126 Postby NorthGaWeather » Sat Aug 21, 2004 12:18 am

califas wrote:
Lindaloo wrote:
califas wrote:
Lindaloo wrote:I dont know about all of you and your locations, but down in the deep south we burn up every summer and are cold in the winter. This past week however, we have enjoyed a cool down in AUGUST!! Nothing has changed and it never will.


GREAT POST MGC!


There is always change.


Well when?? It has been this way since the day I was born. LOL!!


I don't know about MS, but here in good ole califas things have changed for the worse. Fire seasons are getting more wide spread and start earlier than usuall. So there is diffinetly change. Change always happens, it never remains constant.


Most forest fires are caused by lightning or careless people. Yes the land is dry but even here we get large brush fires, and the dry fuels stay relatively moist.
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Re: Huh!!

#127 Postby califas » Sat Aug 21, 2004 7:17 am

NorthGaWeather wrote:
califas wrote:
Lindaloo wrote:
califas wrote:
Lindaloo wrote:I dont know about all of you and your locations, but down in the deep south we burn up every summer and are cold in the winter. This past week however, we have enjoyed a cool down in AUGUST!! Nothing has changed and it never will.


GREAT POST MGC!


There is always change.


Well when?? It has been this way since the day I was born. LOL!!


I don't know about MS, but here in good ole califas things have changed for the worse. Fire seasons are getting more wide spread and start earlier than usuall. So there is diffinetly change. Change always happens, it never remains constant.


Most forest fires are caused by lightning or careless people. Yes the land is dry but even here we get large brush fires, and the dry fuels stay relatively moist.


Yes, but the fires are getting worse and worse every year. We in california harldy have a winter anymore.
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#128 Postby NorthGaWeather » Sat Aug 21, 2004 10:16 am

Its a pattern. I seriously doubt the fires are extremely worse. Mostly because California is so populated that now forest fires endanger most communties. 10 years ago you wouldn't know about half the fires because they wouldn't be near cities. From everyone I've talked with from central, southern California it doesn't seem like y'all have ever had a winter.
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#129 Postby califas » Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:28 pm

NorthGaWeather wrote:Its a pattern. I seriously doubt the fires are extremely worse. Mostly because California is so populated that now forest fires endanger most communties. 10 years ago you wouldn't know about half the fires because they wouldn't be near cities. From everyone I've talked with from central, southern California it doesn't seem like y'all have ever had a winter.


I highly doubt that. We in california hear about all the fires that happen. Even 2 acre ones we hear about them. It is has absolutely nothing to do with population growth. It all has to do with the weather. We are just not getting enough rain. Wrong Bongo, we have had winters, but just not within the past 15 years or so. Trust me I have lived hear all my life and we have winters wear small sprinkles of snow fall were we live and it is just below the 400 ft level. We have had winters I jsut cannot remember them because it has been that long ago.
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Re: nO

#130 Postby NorthGaWeather » Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:37 pm

califas wrote:
NorthGaWeather wrote:Its a pattern. I seriously doubt the fires are extremely worse. Mostly because California is so populated that now forest fires endanger most communties. 10 years ago you wouldn't know about half the fires because they wouldn't be near cities. From everyone I've talked with from central, southern California it doesn't seem like y'all have ever had a winter.


I highly doubt that. We in california hear about all the fires that happen. Even 2 acre ones we hear about them. It is has absolutely nothing to do with population growth. It all has to do with the weather. We are just not getting enough rain. Wrong Bongo, we have had winters, but just not within the past 15 years or so. Trust me I have lived hear all my life and we have winters wear small sprinkles of snow fall were we live and it is just below the 400 ft level. We have had winters I jsut cannot remember them because it has been that long ago.


It has absolutely everything to do with population growth. Yes the dry fuels and humidity are down which allows fires to form. I know a smoke jumper/firefighter and he has told me many times that the fires are just as bad as they were 20 yrs ago. California has experienced a major growth into fire prone areas and when the smallest 1 acre brush fire gets going people know about it. You just basicly proved my point in your post. The major growth has allowed more and more fires to become public when 20 yrs ago no one would have know about them.
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#131 Postby califas » Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:45 pm

NorthGaWeather wrote:
califas wrote:
NorthGaWeather wrote:Its a pattern. I seriously doubt the fires are extremely worse. Mostly because California is so populated that now forest fires endanger most communties. 10 years ago you wouldn't know about half the fires because they wouldn't be near cities. From everyone I've talked with from central, southern California it doesn't seem like y'all have ever had a winter.


I highly doubt that. We in california hear about all the fires that happen. Even 2 acre ones we hear about them. It is has absolutely nothing to do with population growth. It all has to do with the weather. We are just not getting enough rain. Wrong Bongo, we have had winters, but just not within the past 15 years or so. Trust me I have lived hear all my life and we have winters wear small sprinkles of snow fall were we live and it is just below the 400 ft level. We have had winters I jsut cannot remember them because it has been that long ago.


It has absolutely everything to do with population growth. Yes the dry fuels and humidity are down which allows fires to form. I know a smoke jumper/firefighter and he has told me many times that the fires are just as bad as they were 20 yrs ago. California has experienced a major growth into fire prone areas and when the smallest 1 acre brush fire gets going people know about it. You just basicly proved my point in your post. The major growth has allowed more and more fires to become public when 20 yrs ago no one would have know about them.


Uh, no. The report small things like that because there is nothing else to report on. I have friend who does the scripting for NBC news here in burbank and told me that if there is no news, small news is good news. In fact people are leaving California because for one the economy sucks, two, environment sucks, three tooooo hot. Population has nothing to do with it. I don't see too many people living in and near the mountains. I see a lot of people living near the deserts, but not the mountains were most of the fires are happening. The fire in Malibu was a freak incident.
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#132 Postby NorthGaWeather » Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:52 pm

I watched a program on the travel channel about the Mountains of California and there seems to be quiet alot of people living there. Population growth has alot to do with it because more and more people, as I have said for the 10th time, are moving into fire prone areas. Brush fires are VERY common in California. But when these massive wildfires get going they endanger populated areas that weren't there a few yrs back and get heavy air time. Nothing is out of the ordinary but the media overhyping a 2 acre brush fire.
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#133 Postby califas » Sat Aug 21, 2004 4:21 pm

NorthGaWeather wrote:I watched a program on the travel channel about the Mountains of California and there seems to be quiet alot of people living there. Population growth has alot to do with it because more and more people, as I have said for the 10th time, are moving into fire prone areas. Brush fires are VERY common in California. But when these massive wildfires get going they endanger populated areas that weren't there a few yrs back and get heavy air time. Nothing is out of the ordinary but the media overhyping a 2 acre brush fire.


HAHAHAHAHA! The travel channel, of course they are going to show a lot of people because they want you to travel there to the moutains. I know in San Diego County there are houses in and neear the mountain ranges there, but those houses have been there for the past 20 years....Maybe, we should look at the travel channel for fire forecasting. LOL
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#134 Postby NorthGaWeather » Sat Aug 21, 2004 4:40 pm

Was that suppose to be funny?

Also did you catch that show on the discovery channel about one of the recent wildfires in the mountains? Sure looked populated.
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#135 Postby New Englander » Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:32 pm

I recently went from Phoenix Arizona to Los Angeles by car. It cant be denied that something is happening out there.. Some towns which had forests are just dead wastelands with dead trees everywhere. And it didnt really chang even as we got closer to the coast. Everything was just dead. Looked like everything about 40 miles from the coast and East is turning into a desert.
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