Will Earl Still Be Earl in the Pacific??

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Will Earl Still Be Earl in the Pacific??

#1 Postby Cyclone Runner » Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:15 pm

It looks like Earl could form into something in the Eastern Pacific. If it does would it still be Earl or would they use one of the East Pacific names.

What are the rules here??
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#2 Postby bayouwxman » Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:17 pm

It would take on an EPAC name...

http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/E13.html
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#3 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:17 pm

As soon something crosses from the atlantic to the pacific and was a named system it changes the name.In this case it would be Estelle the name not Earl.
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#4 Postby Cyclone Runner » Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:25 pm

Cycloneye said:
In this case it would be Estelle the name not Earl.


Poor Earl is becoming transgendered!! OUCHHHHHHH!
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#5 Postby Brent » Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:32 pm

Cyclone Runner wrote:Cycloneye said:
In this case it would be Estelle the name not Earl.


Poor Earl is becoming transgendered!! OUCHHHHHHH!


LOL!!!!! Earl was Gay anyway. :wink: :lol:
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#6 Postby Ixolib » Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:53 pm

Brent wrote:
Cyclone Runner wrote:Cycloneye said:
In this case it would be Estelle the name not Earl.


Poor Earl is becoming transgendered!! OUCHHHHHHH!


LOL!!!!! Earl was Gay anyway. :wink: :lol:


...not that there's anything wrong with that. A Seinfeld favorite!!
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#7 Postby Stormsfury » Tue Aug 17, 2004 10:55 pm

Changes were made in regards to systems crossing the ATL into the E PAC and vice versa ... if the tropical cyclone is still an identifiable entity when it crosses, it retains the given name in that specific basin that it formed in ...

A perfect case where this was put to the test was Hurricane Iris back in 2001, but the LLC was shredded apart in the mountainous terrain, but the vorticity remains spawned a new center in the E PAC. Since it regenerated over the E PAC with a whole new center (a fresh start, so to speak), it was given the E PAC basin name instead of remaining Iris ...

Excerpts from the Preliminary Report for Tropical Storm Manuel below ...
Entire report ----> http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/2001manuel.html

"Tropical Storm Manuel was a weak and generally disorganized eastern North Pacific tropical cyclone that formed from the remnants of Atlantic Hurricane Iris."

"Manuel formed from the remnants of Atlantic Hurricane Iris, which struck southern Belize as a Category Four hurricane (on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale) early on 9 October. By 1800 UTC, the core circulation of Iris had dissipated over the mountains of eastern Mexico, while new convection was developing a short distance away over the waters of the Pacific. This area became better organized over the next 18 hours and became Tropical Depression Fifteen-E at 1200 UTC 10 October, about 175 n mi south-southeast of Acapulco, Mexico. (Note: current operational policy is that tropical cyclones crossing into another basin retain their original name; since Iris had dissipated as a tropical cyclone prior to entering the eastern North Pacific basin, the new depression was properly named Fifteen-E, rather than Iris.)"

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Gets a Different Name

#8 Postby hurricanemike » Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:09 pm

When a storm goes from Atlantic to E Pacific, it gets a new name b/c it switches basins.
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Re: Gets a Different Name

#9 Postby Stormsfury » Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:14 pm

hurricanemike wrote:When a storm goes from Atlantic to E Pacific, it gets a new name b/c it switches basins.


That's what they used to do, but change were made in late 2000 (for the 2001 season) ... read the post above yours for the prelim report from Tropical Storm Manuel from the NHC ...

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#10 Postby Aslkahuna » Wed Aug 18, 2004 12:31 am

This has been the rule in the Pacific all along since EPAC storms that enter CENPAC and WPAC still retain the EPAC names same for CENPAC to WPAC and vice versa. Best examples are HR/TY Sarah 1967 an EPAC-WPAC storm via CENPAC, and STY Paka a CENPAC storm that devastated Guam.

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#11 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 18, 2004 6:30 am

Ok good to know about those changes in effect now when systems cross from one basin to another.Thanks SF for clarifying.
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