Eye may be developing

[stormernie]

Latest infared pictures show what may be the beginning of an eye feature. A dark area is rotating withing the large red fireball.

We'll see...

[Dean4Storms]

Bonnie had an eye this AM for a few hours so I am not too surprised if Charley winks back at her!

[Stormsfury]

Um ... not yet ... this system's CDO is so intense right now, it may NOT show up for quite a while obscured by the very hig and cold cloud canopy ...

[WeatherEmperor]

If this keeps up then Charley will become much stronger then we previously thought. I only hope that its forward speeds slows down its strenghtening phase.

<RICKY>

[wxman57]

Might want to check out the latest Quickscat of Charley:

http://manati.wwb.noaa.gov/storm_at_ima ... 1_03ds.png

Doesn't a near-hurricane need a closed LLC? Of course, the QS resolution may be a bit poor under the CDO, but look at the winds south of the CDO - still easterly. Recon did send back a vortex message, but I don't recall seeing any westerly winds in the reports.

[kevin]

Whoa, that would really suck.

[Derek Ortt]

QS has had some problems in the past. It depicted Daniel in 2000 while a cane near Hawaii as an open wave and never did resolve a center for Iris, even as it was nearly a cat 5.

I thik what this does show is that this is a very small cyclone, much smaller than we all initially thought it would be

[Stormsfury]

QS has had some problems in the past. It depicted Daniel in 2000 while a cane near Hawaii as an open wave and never did resolve a center for Iris, even as it was nearly a cat 5.

I thik what this does show is that this is a very small cyclone, much smaller than we all initially thought it would be

I agree with that, and would definitely be the theme so far this year ... all three cyclones have had small cores up to this point (although, Charley has the largest envelope of space taken).

SF

[MGC]

Not too many 999mb TC's have satellite eyes visible.....MGC

[Stormsfury]

Not too many 999mb TC's have satellite eyes visible.....MGC

Not too many TC's (*cough* Bonnie *cough*)... have 10 NM wide eyes as a tropical storm either ... very odd TC's ...

SF

[Brent]

Might want to check out the latest Quickscat of Charley:

http://manati.wwb.noaa.gov/storm_at_ima ... 1_03ds.png

Doesn't a near-hurricane need a closed LLC? Of course, the QS resolution may be a bit poor under the CDO, but look at the winds south of the CDO - still easterly. Recon did send back a vortex message, but I don't recall seeing any westerly winds in the reports.

It had a center earlier when recon was out there, otherwise, this wouldn't be Charley.

[weatherSnoop]

I am kinda new to all of the images, but does this not look as an eye is trying to appear?
http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tc_pages/04_ ... thumb.html

[Hyperstorm]

Actually, tomorrow might not be so good of a day for Charlie. It could initially become a hurricane early tomorrow morning, but it looks like intensification will come to a halt by the afternoon when SW shear begins affecting the circulation.

In fact, at this very same hour....The system's outflow is quite restricted to the SW and even the CDO feature has encountered what looks like a wall barrier. It should have to overcome that for it to intensify much more than what is expected by the early morning hours. I don't expect MUCH more intensification for tomorrow after this current burst fades away.....

[bahamaswx]

That "flat spot" on Charley's convection isn't as obvious anymore, Hyperstorm.

[Hyperstorm]

Actually, there is still a flat spot this morning on the SW side, but it's not as pronounced as I had thought. At least, it should be enough to prevent rapid intensification as long as it's being affected by it. The system will have to slow down sooner or later in order to turn Northerly, so then we could see major intensification.

[Anonymous]

This is looking mighty impressive, I guess they are waiting for Recon to upgrade it.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... IR4/20.jpg

[Lowpressure]

Both systems look much better this morning. Charley might have trouble with an eye due to land influence, for now. I bet he looks back at us in the eastern gulf once he clears the tip of Cuba.

[Guest]

so you are suggesting that Charley is really a tropical wave or TD!!?!?!?!!?

didnt we go through this yesterday morning with Derek....?

Might want to check out the latest Quickscat of Charley:

http://manati.wwb.noaa.gov/storm_at_ima ... 1_03ds.png

Doesn't a near-hurricane need a closed LLC? Of course, the QS resolution may be a bit poor under the CDO, but look at the winds south of the CDO - still easterly. Recon did send back a vortex message, but I don't recall seeing any westerly winds in the reports.

[stu]

Well, Recon found an eye after all...

URNT12 KNHC 111223
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 11/1223Z
B. 16 DEG 19 MIN N
75 DEG 24 MIN W
C. 850 MB 1368 M
D. 55 KT
E. 299 DEG 08 NM
F. 062 DEG 76 KT
G. 301 DEG 007 NM
H. 995 MB
I. 17 C/ 1521 M
J. 21 C/ 1525 M
K. 16 C/ NA
L. CLOSED
M. C12
N. 12345/8
O. 0.1/3.0 NM
P. AF968 0203A CHARLEY OB 07
MAX FL WIND 76 KT NW QUAD 1221Z.