Sure am happy I don't..........

[dixiebreeze]

have to have crow for supper -- never liked the stuff. Going to be an interesting weekend for sure:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... IR4/20.jpg

[dixiebreeze]

Haven't seen any models this morning, but it looks like the GOM is a very possible track. Anyone agree?

[frederic79]

Read this:

A well organized cloud pattern moved out of the Sahara Desert and was first identified on satellite imagery north of the Cape Verde Islands on August 23, 1985. The unusually fast 30 knot westward motion, combined with the dry Saharan air mass surrounding the disturbance, apparently inhibited the formation of a tropical cyclone until the system approached Cuba the evening of August 27. The rapid motion was the result of a strong high pressure ridge building westward across the Atlantic north of the tropical disturbance.

Elena was named when the center crossed central Cuba into the Gulf of Mexico. It quickly strengthened into a hurricane on August 29. A marked decrease in Elena’s forward motion began the next day as steering currents collapsed with the approach of a frontal trough from the northwest. Elena turned and took an eastward course for the next 36 hours in response to a low pressure system moving rapidly across Pennsylvania into the Atlantic.
As high pressure began to build over the Eastern U.S. on September 1, Elena once again resumed a gradual acceleration toward the WNW with increasing strength. The center made landfall near Biloxi, MS with a pressure of 951 mb.

Prior to reaching the central Gulf Coast, the track of Elena, with the exception of the very rapid motion, was typical of the Cape Verde-type system in August. Thereafter, a 3-day encounter with the "Fall-type" frontal low pressure system almost brought the center back to the Florida west coast before it turned to a WNW course on September 1.
-NHC Archives, September 1985

-With the strong atypical cold front arriving in mid-summer, I thought this account was fascinating given the location of our blob, formerly TD2.

[dixiebreeze]

I remember her well -- up close and personal.

[caneman]

Indeed, I too remember the young lass. Heck of a party weekend.

[BayouVenteux]

Elena was named when the center crossed central Cuba into the Gulf of Mexico. It quickly strengthened into a hurricane on August 29. A marked decrease in Elena’s forward motion began the next day as steering currents collapsed with the approach of a frontal trough from the northwest. Elena turned and took an eastward course for the next 36 hours in response to a low pressure system moving rapidly across Pennsylvania into the Atlantic.
As high pressure began to build over the Eastern U.S. on September 1, Elena once again resumed a gradual acceleration toward the WNW with increasing strength. The center made landfall near Biloxi, MS with a pressure of 951 mb.

UNNNGH! Not another Wandering Elena please! That storm affected every Gulf state excluding Texas in one way or another, and if I recall, there was even a short time on it's FIRST waltz to the west that there was some speculation about a landfall in the Lake Charles/Beaumont area. From SE Louisiana to Tampa/St. Pete, everyone played musical evacuation, some not once, but twice that Labor Day weekend, as was the case in the Pensacola-FWB/Destin area.

[dixiebreeze]

Elena provided a big Labor Day weekend party -- but the followoing weeks of clean-up were hell. She was really ornery.

[HurricaneBill]

UNNNGH! Not another Wandering Elena please!

If Elena had a nickname, it probably would have been "pain in the butt".

Her theme song was probably "Wanderer" by Donna Summer.

Cause I'm a wanderer
I travel every place
Yes, I'm a wanderer
From here to outer space.....

[alicia-w]

okay, so what part of the Gulf and by when?

[GalvestonDuck]

okay, so what part of the Gulf and by when?

Central GOM, 8/9/04 - Fishie

(Call it hopecasting because it's the best case scenario IMO and that's all it is...opinion)

[Rainband]

The front will now stall across central florida according to the latest, that can change. It's all up in the air at this point BTW Shawn there are no fish storms in the GOM

[dixiebreeze]

I'd like to see a "fish" storm in the GOM, rainband -- that would be a first!

[Lindaloo]

okay, so what part of the Gulf and by when?

Central GOM, 8/9/04 - Fishie

(Call it hopecasting because it's the best case scenario IMO and that's all it is...opinion)

Um NOT!!

[ColdFront77]

:eek: I'd like to see a "fish" storm in the GOM, rainband -- that would be a first!

A southeast to east and then northeast moving system from the Gulf toward or over Cuba/south of Florida (that is if you consider it missing only the United States on it's way out) to the other side of Florida and out to sea. .. ..

[Hurricanehink]

Well, Henri in 1979 reached the Gulf but died before hitting the mainland.

That could be considered a fish, and a cool scenario
Likewise with Jeanne the following year.

[GalvestonDuck]

I thought they were considered "fish" when they stay out over the water.

?

[Rainband]

I thought they were considered "fish" when they stay out over the water.

?

Most , if not all storms in the GOM make landfall. The situation Tom refers to is very Unlikely. The scernario Hurricanehink refers to is as well

[GalvestonDuck]

I thought they were considered "fish" when they stay out over the water.

?

Most , if not all storms in the GOM make landfall. The situation Tom refers to is very Unlikely. The scernario Hurricanehink refers to is as well

Ah...okay, I'm clear now. I thought you were saying that they weren't called fish. You're just saying that there are rarely ever fish storms in the GOM. Gotcha!

[Rainband]

I thought they were considered "fish" when they stay out over the water.

?

Most , if not all storms in the GOM make landfall. The situation Tom refers to is very Unlikely. The scernario Hurricanehink refers to is as well

Ah...okay, I'm clear now. I thought you were saying that they weren't called fish. You're just saying that there are rarely ever fish storms in the GOM. Gotcha!

[ColdFront77]

Elena's center made it to within 125 miles west of my current location. I understand Leesburg, FL
{a half hour south of me} had a lot of tornadic thunderstorm damage.