thats 83% of dems in the house that think the money stealing. despotic,
anti-semitic, anti-american un should control OUR elections. these people are dangerous.
washingtonpost.com > Politics > In Congress
Proposal to Have U.N. Monitor Elections Ends in Partisan Clash
By Dan Morgan
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, July 19, 2004; Page A15
House Republicans view a recent move by 11 Democrats to have United Nations observers monitor U.S. elections as a politically motivated stunt, and last week they moved to nip the idea in the bud.
But after an unusually rancorous skirmish that brought proceedings on the House floor to a standstill late Thursday, the issue may have received more publicity than even Democrats hoped for.
It pitted Rep. Steve Buyer (R-Ind.), author of an amendment to the 2005 foreign aid bill aimed at blocking U.N. involvement in U.S. elections, against Rep. Corrine Brown (D-Fla.), who had harsh words for Buyer.
Buyer had been describing a July 1 letter from Democrats to U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan, requesting that he send observers to "monitor" this fall's elections, as "rather foolish, nonsense and silly."
"Imagine on Election Day you get up, you have your breakfast, you grab your coffee and your Danish, and you are going to go to the voting booth," Buyer said. "When you show up, you are curious because you see a white van out there that says the U.N. beside it and little blue helmets. The United Nations has arrived; we are going to ensure the integrity of the American electoral process. . . . I don't think so."
When Brown's turn came, she tore into Buyer.
"I come from Florida where you and others participated in what I call the United States coup d'état," she said. "We need to make sure that it does not happen again. Over and over again, after the election, when you stole the election, you came back here and said get over it."
An irate Buyer then halted the debate and demanded that Brown's words be "taken down," a step that can lead to a formal House reprimand.
After a 20-minute conference with the House parliamentarian, Acting Speaker Doug Ose (R-Calif.) issued a ruling: "Members should not accuse other members of committing a crime, such as stealing an election. By accusing an identifiable member of stealing an election, the gentlewoman's words are not in order."
Brown appealed the ruling, Buyer attempted to table the appeal and Brown then demanded a recorded vote. Proceedings continued on hold for more than a half-hour, as members returned to the chamber from functions around town.
The straight party-line vote of 219 to 187 upheld the ruling that Brown was out of order. By 243 to 161, the House then approved Buyer's amendment barring any U.S. funds from being used by the United Nations to monitor elections here. Thirty-three Democrats joined a solid block of 210 Republicans in that vote.
© 2004 The Washington Post Company
161 DEMOCRATS vote for UN to monitor presidential election
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Alright then, how about a boatload of Cubans to merely 'observe' the proceedings? Show them how a democracy does it?
Ok, before the hissyfits start about that mere suggestion, how about we invite the Japanese instead? They're allies and learned from the best. Or better yet, the Chinese to learn how it's done correctly?
Which other states beside Florida had the problems last time? Anyone remember off hand?
Ok, before the hissyfits start about that mere suggestion, how about we invite the Japanese instead? They're allies and learned from the best. Or better yet, the Chinese to learn how it's done correctly?
Which other states beside Florida had the problems last time? Anyone remember off hand?
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All states have problems with voting. Unfortunately, Florida's fiasco was the most glaring due to how close the race was. It wouldn't have been an issue if the election had been a landslide win for either side.
I think that it is plain WRONG to have them monitor the elections. That would make us no better than a third world country just enterring into the democratic process.
Hey - did anyone notice it was the Washington Post that reported this???
I think that it is plain WRONG to have them monitor the elections. That would make us no better than a third world country just enterring into the democratic process.
Hey - did anyone notice it was the Washington Post that reported this???
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Kiko wrote:Alright then, how about a boatload of Cubans to merely 'observe' the proceedings? Show them how a democracy does it?
Ok, before the hissyfits start about that mere suggestion, how about we invite the Japanese instead? They're allies and learned from the best. Or better yet, the Chinese to learn how it's done correctly?
Which other states beside Florida had the problems last time? Anyone remember off hand?
No, nobody should monitor our elections. You're ridiculus for suggesting otherwise.
...Jennifer...
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Kiko wrote:Alright then, how about a boatload of Cubans to merely 'observe' the proceedings? Show them how a democracy does it?
Ok, before the hissyfits start about that mere suggestion, how about we invite the Japanese instead? They're allies and learned from the best. Or better yet, the Chinese to learn how it's done correctly?
Which other states beside Florida had the problems last time? Anyone remember off hand?
Or how about we monitor our own election like we are suppose to.. There were some problems with our last elections. We dont need anyone else to tell us that.. And we dont need anyone else to come in to help us this time.. We are one of the strongest nations. We can fix our own problems and monitor our own elections..
Agree 110% with you Jen
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Kiko wrote:Alright then, how about a boatload of Cubans to merely 'observe' the proceedings? Show them how a democracy does it?
Ok, before the hissyfits start about that mere suggestion, how about we invite the Japanese instead? They're allies and learned from the best. Or better yet, the Chinese to learn how it's done correctly?
Which other states beside Florida had the problems last time? Anyone remember off hand?
IN FLORIDA, the counties where the 'complaints" were made were controlled by democrats. dems were the poll workers, dems approved and
designed the ballots.
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Stephanie wrote:All states have problems with voting. Unfortunately, Florida's fiasco was the most glaring due to how close the race was. It wouldn't have been an issue if the election had been a landslide win for either side.
I think that it is plain WRONG to have them monitor the elections. That would make us no better than a third world country just enterring into the democratic process.
Hey - did anyone notice it was the Washington Post that reported this???
Completely agree. If the U.N. EVER monitors our elections, I am going to be very upset.
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IN FLORIDA, the counties where the 'complaints" were made were controlled by democrats. dems were the poll workers, dems approved and
designed the ballots.
Then it was indeed a coup de grace delivered from the brother who promised to deliver the state?
Such are the lessons of 2000 learned.
I'd still like to know what there is to hide from countries who wish to follow our example of democracy in action. Why is that wrong?
Please explain in a constructive manner.
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