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#81 Postby Lindaloo » Wed May 26, 2004 12:37 pm

Not at all. Italy is full of Mosques, Synagogues and we respect all kind of religions. We are the cradle of the Christianity, anyway in our public schools students may choose to either partecipate or not to religion classrooms.
We are just sending back home those imans that feed foundamentalism and terrorism.
Look at your maps: Islam is everywhere around Italy and Europe. From Morocco to Serbia-Montenegro. We know pretty well what leaving together with muslims means. They are basically the results of ignorance, indoctrination and poverty. Islam is a matter of interpretation. Those that interpretate it and divulgate it for their own pourposes are those giving us troubles today. Giving the people more culture, while respecting their usances would make our lives much better.
When living in our countries, they shall respect laws that makes no difference if I stand in a church on sunday morning or I double up five times a day.




Wrong, your President and Senate just passed a law stating that Muslims are not allowed to wear their "Kufis" or any attire to school. That does not sound like respect to me. That IMO is trying to control a certain religious group.

Practice what you preach Paolo.

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#82 Postby j » Wed May 26, 2004 1:53 pm

hee hee ho ho linda
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#83 Postby Guest » Wed May 26, 2004 3:19 pm

I don't care what arguments you might fabricate to counter this. The truth of the matter is: America was founded by Christian men with Christian values. Unlike almost anywhere else on the globe, we are respectful of other religions and allow the practice of such within our country. What we will not tolerate is people trying to take away from our great Christian heritage. We will continue to praise our Lord, we will continue to teach our children the way, we will continue to say "under God", and we will always be proud of our Christian roots. America is a country comprised of Christian heritage. Period.
...Jennifer...
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#84 Postby furluvcats » Wed May 26, 2004 4:53 pm

Very well said Jennifer.
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#85 Postby streetsoldier » Wed May 26, 2004 5:03 pm

George Washington WAS a Mason...and also a member of the Anglican Church (now Episcopal Church).

Being a Mason REQUIRES that its applicants, and brethren have a belief in God, or a Supreme Being, "in any of the 1,001 languages in which men call upon Him". What's more, no Lodge ever opens without the Holy Bible conspicuously placed in the center, where all may see it, and think on it; and all of the degree work in every Masonic body is derived from Biblical sources.

I should know...I, too am a Mason. Your understanding of the Craft is sadly lacking, zwyts; may I suggest that you call the local Lodge, or ask a Mason you may already know? The answers you will receive will surprise you.
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#86 Postby CaluWxBill » Wed May 26, 2004 5:27 pm

Dumb question. What is a mason. When I think of a mason, I think about stone and brick masonry. Not sure what you would call them.
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Re: South Carolina target for secession

#87 Postby OtherHD » Wed May 26, 2004 5:43 pm

j wrote:"Our Christian republic has declined into a pagan democracy," says Cory Burnell, president of ChristianExodus.org, a non-profit corporation based in Tyler, Texas. "There are some issues people just can't take anymore, and [same-sex marriage] might finally wake up the complacent Christians."


As per Chad's advice, I'd like to say...

KISS THIS, CHRISTIANEXODUS.ORG!! :moon2:
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#88 Postby Lindaloo » Wed May 26, 2004 5:53 pm

Nice HD.
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#89 Postby streetsoldier » Wed May 26, 2004 6:28 pm

CaluWxBill,

Run a search engine on "Freemasonry"...the choices given will explain the "oldest charitable fraternity in the world (at least to 1360 AD, but likely much older)" better than I can here, without monopolizing the Forum for the next three hours.
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#90 Postby Guest » Wed May 26, 2004 6:58 pm

mrschad wrote:I don't care what arguments you might fabricate to counter this. The truth of the matter is: America was founded by Christian men with Christian values. Unlike almost anywhere else on the globe, we are respectful of other religions and allow the practice of such within our country. What we will not tolerate is people trying to take away from our great Christian heritage. We will continue to praise our Lord, we will continue to teach our children the way, we will continue to say "under God", and we will always be proud of our Christian roots. America is a country comprised of Christian heritage. Period.
...Jennifer...


I am not proud of our Christian Heritage. But I am so thankful that "you" all are nice enough to let me practice my faith.
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#91 Postby CaluWxBill » Wed May 26, 2004 7:26 pm

streetsoldier wrote:CaluWxBill,

Run a search engine on "Freemasonry"...the choices given will explain the "oldest charitable fraternity in the world (at least to 1360 AD, but likely much older)" better than I can here, without monopolizing the Forum for the next three hours.


http://www.co-masonry.org

Certainly interesting. I still cannot get what it is all about. To accept all religions yet require the belief in a Great Architect seems to exclude some. also, it definitely seems Christian in origin. I think the articles were all quite interesting, but I can only believe that for one to truely understand they must be a participant as you yourself is.
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#92 Postby Lindaloo » Wed May 26, 2004 9:36 pm

zwyts wrote:I am not proud of our Christian Heritage. But I am so thankful that "you" all are nice enough to let me practice my faith.


No, actually you being a lawyer and all should thank your fine Supreme Court Judges.
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#93 Postby Guest » Wed May 26, 2004 11:22 pm

Lindaloo wrote:
zwyts wrote:I am not proud of our Christian Heritage. But I am so thankful that "you" all are nice enough to let me practice my faith.


No, actually you being a lawyer and all should thank your fine Supreme Court Judges.


I agree it is a good thing that there are intelligent scholars to interpret the Constitution and it is not left up to people on message boards.
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#94 Postby WEATHER53 » Wed May 26, 2004 11:28 pm

zwyts wrote:
mrschad wrote:I don't care what arguments you might fabricate to counter this. The truth of the matter is: America was founded by Christian men with Christian values. Unlike almost anywhere else on the globe, we are respectful of other religions and allow the practice of such within our country. What we will not tolerate is people trying to take away from our great Christian heritage. We will continue to praise our Lord, we will continue to teach our children the way, we will continue to say "under God", and we will always be proud of our Christian roots. America is a country comprised of Christian heritage. Period.
...Jennifer...


I am not proud of our Christian Heritage. But I am so thankful that "you" all are nice enough to let me practice my faith.


But are you not proud, I am, that many of the founding precepts of our nation are rooted in goodness/godliness and that to a very large extent that spiritual footing has served us well.
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#95 Postby streetsoldier » Wed May 26, 2004 11:34 pm

Oh, really, zwyts?

"Common people"...farmers, coopers (barrel makers), coppersmiths, acrhitects, cobblers and printers...like the posters here... WROTE our Constitution. If you took the time to read the minutes and letters of those who were active in the framing of this instrument, you would plainly see the INTENT of each clause, paragraph and amendment...why, therefore, do "we, the people" need "interpretation"?

Any careful examination of the documents as described (and I have already done so many, many times) is enough to satisfy even the most cynical pursuivant. "Interpretation"? Indeed... :roll:
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#96 Postby Lindaloo » Wed May 26, 2004 11:50 pm

zwyts wrote:I agree it is a good thing that there are intelligent scholars to interpret the Constitution and it is not left up to people on message boards.



Interpret is a big word. Why not use converting the Constitution to their own liberal views and then liberals intepreting those same beliefs on a message board.
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#97 Postby Guest » Thu May 27, 2004 2:55 am

Lindaloo wrote:
Not at all. Italy is full of Mosques, Synagogues and we respect all kind of religions. We are the cradle of the Christianity, anyway in our public schools students may choose to either partecipate or not to religion classrooms.
We are just sending back home those imans that feed foundamentalism and terrorism.
Look at your maps: Islam is everywhere around Italy and Europe. From Morocco to Serbia-Montenegro. We know pretty well what leaving together with muslims means. They are basically the results of ignorance, indoctrination and poverty. Islam is a matter of interpretation. Those that interpretate it and divulgate it for their own pourposes are those giving us troubles today. Giving the people more culture, while respecting their usances would make our lives much better.
When living in our countries, they shall respect laws that makes no difference if I stand in a church on sunday morning or I double up five times a day.


Wrong, your President and Senate just passed a law stating that Muslims are not allowed to wear their "Kufis" or any attire to school. That does not sound like respect to me. That IMO is trying to control a certain religious group.
Practice what you preach Paolo. [/unquote]

Linda, once and for all: I am from ITALY read well: ITALY!!!! That law is established in FRANCE spelled F R A N C E ! ! ! ! ! Can u see any difference?
In Italy we have no law at all of that kind, infact is full of muslims ladies wearing their Kufis in every school level.

Hope your guys in the button room knows something more about geography, I would not be bombed by mistake...

By the way, cannot see my post anymore... can somebody explain me why?
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I Would Respectfully Like to State...

#98 Postby Arizwx » Thu May 27, 2004 4:53 am

...That Paolo has been mistreated,misunderstood...and has been reasonable.
He took no unruly tack against our President.Rather,he asked a reasonable question...is he 'new born Christian' (aka Born Again).
Again..reasonable.Why not answer the kind gentleman from Rome instead of being defensive and possibly alienating an ALLY(Italianos)?
This is the USA..why not let general questions flourish?Let's be Ambassadors....and be 'Uniters...not Dividers' as Pres.Bush outlined.
BTW Paolo..I've been to Italy and France many times...and can find them on a map...much prefer Italy...esp the Mtns North...skiing dude! 8-)
As so far as the nutcase from S.Carolina...Good Luck dude!LOl!
Attn:to S Carolinians:Don't but a Cell Phone from Mr Burnell...it may be 'bugged'by Palmettos.!
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#99 Postby Lindaloo » Thu May 27, 2004 8:24 am

Arizwx wrote:...That Paolo has been mistreated,misunderstood...and has been reasonable.
He took no unruly tack against our President.Rather,he asked a reasonable question...is he 'new born Christian' (aka Born Again).
Again..reasonable.Why not answer the kind gentleman from Rome instead of being defensive and possibly alienating an ALLY(Italianos)?
This is the USA..why not let general questions flourish?Let's be Ambassadors....and be 'Uniters...not Dividers' as Pres.Bush outlined.
BTW Paolo..I've been to Italy and France many times...and can find them on a map...much prefer Italy...esp the Mtns North...skiing dude! 8-)
As so far as the nutcase from S.Carolina...Good Luck dude!LOl!
Attn:to S Carolinians:Don't but a Cell Phone from Mr Burnell...it may be 'bugged'by Palmettos.!


Classic! :roll:
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#100 Postby Lindaloo » Thu May 27, 2004 8:28 am

PaolofromRome wrote:
Lindaloo wrote:
Not at all. Italy is full of Mosques, Synagogues and we respect all kind of religions. We are the cradle of the Christianity, anyway in our public schools students may choose to either partecipate or not to religion classrooms.
We are just sending back home those imans that feed foundamentalism and terrorism.
Look at your maps: Islam is everywhere around Italy and Europe. From Morocco to Serbia-Montenegro. We know pretty well what leaving together with muslims means. They are basically the results of ignorance, indoctrination and poverty. Islam is a matter of interpretation. Those that interpretate it and divulgate it for their own pourposes are those giving us troubles today. Giving the people more culture, while respecting their usances would make our lives much better.
When living in our countries, they shall respect laws that makes no difference if I stand in a church on sunday morning or I double up five times a day.


Wrong, your President and Senate just passed a law stating that Muslims are not allowed to wear their "Kufis" or any attire to school. That does not sound like respect to me. That IMO is trying to control a certain religious group.
Practice what you preach Paolo. [/unquote]

Linda, once and for all: I am from ITALY read well: ITALY!!!! That law is established in FRANCE spelled F R A N C E ! ! ! ! ! Can u see any difference?
In Italy we have no law at all of that kind, infact is full of muslims ladies wearing their Kufis in every school level.

Hope your guys in the button room knows something more about geography, I would not be bombed by mistake...

By the way, cannot see my post anymore... can somebody explain me why?


Sorry I got confused!
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