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#21 Postby j » Mon May 24, 2004 3:48 pm

ok...I'll bite. I moved down here because I felt it was my civic duty to do my part to help, like so many other Yankees, and improve the socio-economic foundation of this poor state.

Plus....there's nothing like a Southern babe.
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So. Carolina...

#22 Postby sunnyday » Mon May 24, 2004 5:35 pm

Some people toss the term Chritianity around too lightly. True Christians try to live like Jesus would have them to--period. Please don't lump us all together.Some Christians are more sincere than others, and some are misguided.
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#23 Postby Pburgh » Mon May 24, 2004 5:55 pm

I think I've read "Judge not lest ye be judged".
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#24 Postby Stephanie » Mon May 24, 2004 6:35 pm

I think that everyone needs to remember that Karan - the Golden Rule is a good one as well.

j - :wanna:
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#25 Postby Pburgh » Mon May 24, 2004 6:45 pm

Right Stephanie!!!!! Are you asking j??????? Oh my you're a Yankee!!!!!! jk
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#26 Postby Stephanie » Mon May 24, 2004 6:49 pm

Pburgh wrote:Right Stephanie!!!!! Are you asking j??????? Oh my you're a Yankee!!!!!! jk



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#27 Postby Stormsfury » Mon May 24, 2004 7:24 pm

Brent wrote:Good. Sell South Carolina to France. :lol:


With all due respect ... I don't think so ...
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#28 Postby Stormsfury » Mon May 24, 2004 7:30 pm

streetsoldier wrote:Didn't South Carolina try this once before...in 1861? :eek: And, y'all remembah whut happent thin? :(

It failed then as it would today; besides, as the text shows, this is being proposed by OUTSIDE interests, not necessarily the people of South Carolina. :roll:


This is the first that I've heard about this ... portions of South Carolina are very tolerant to "diversity" while other portions ... well, let's say ... there would probably be lynchings ...

This does look extremely bad on South Carolina ... I've been a South Carolinian all my life, and I don't really see that changing, but this radical "fundamentalism" in religion is the exact reason why I'm turned off to the whole idea ...

Pretty much, I'm a spiritualist but with a strong belief in God ... (in a nutshell, my own being with my own set of beliefs, and frankly, I lead a good life with good intentions towards other people and to do the right thing.)
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#29 Postby Stormsfury » Mon May 24, 2004 7:36 pm

j wrote:
streetsoldier wrote:Didn't South Carolina try this once before...in 1861? :eek: And, y'all remembah whut happent thin? :(

It failed then as it would today; besides, as the text shows, this is being proposed by OUTSIDE interests, not necessarily the people of South Carolina. :roll:


THat is correct Bill. Just thought it was kind of funny because living here, this is not as crazy as an outsider might believe. There is a HUGE percentage of the State's population that would like nothing more than to be there own little state making their own little rules, and collectively shunning all Yankees/non Baptists.

I find it absurd personally the way us Yankees are treated here, but at the same time, I can respect their desire to hold true to their strong Christain beliefs, and live their life backed by a strong moral foundation.

But...there still crazy, and I have no problem telling them so.


To add to J's comments ... yes, there are quite a few that would love nothing more than for South Carolina (and the South) to rise again. I, myself, am proud of Southern Heritage, but the aforementioned above is way too radical for me, and so ... well, 1800's ...

The problem is particularly worse in more rural towns and B.F.E. locations, and more prevalent as well in the Upstate/Midlands ... Charleston, Myrtle Beach, Hilton Head, and the Coastal communities are much more open and welcome (since a lot of economy for these locales are highly dependant on tourism).

IMHO, the "views" expressed about secession are both radical and NOT shared by the masses ...
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#30 Postby Stormsfury » Mon May 24, 2004 7:40 pm

CaluWxBill wrote:
j wrote:You are correct Linda. So........???


Them South Carolinians will hang you once the seccession takes place. Nah, I am sure they will be cool, it will be those radical Texans that are called in to reinforce the South Carolina Christian Nation movement.


Nah ... he could move to Charleston where a lot of people have moved to get away from the cold weather (primarily the Northeast, and are snow-haters ...) ... I have more problems with Northerners when I mention the potential of the word possible "snow", and hearing, "That's why I moved away from the North ... to get away from it."
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#31 Postby CaluWxBill » Mon May 24, 2004 7:42 pm

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CaluWxBill wrote:
j wrote:You are correct Linda. So........???


Them South Carolinians will hang you once the seccession takes place. Nah, I am sure they will be cool, it will be those radical Texans that are called in to reinforce the South Carolina Christian Nation movement.


Nah ... he could move to Charleston where a lot of people have moved to get away from the cold weather (primarily the Northeast, and are snow-haters ...) ... I have more problems with Northerners when I mention the potential of the word possible "snow", and hearing, "That's why I moved away from the North ... to get away from it."


You broke the 4 post rule, and sorry to paint South Carolina with a broad brush.
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#32 Postby Stormsfury » Mon May 24, 2004 7:43 pm

sunnyday wrote:Some people toss the term Chritianity around too lightly. True Christians try to live like Jesus would have them to--period. Please don't lump us all together.Some Christians are more sincere than others, and some are misguided.


That's the biggest difference between fundamental Christianity and radical religion come in ... The radical always screws up fundamentals, like a loose bolt falling off a car ...
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#33 Postby Stormsfury » Mon May 24, 2004 7:45 pm

You broke the 4 post rule, and sorry to paint South Carolina with a broad brush.


Not a problem, CaluWxBill. I haven't posted much lately, anyway and the severe weather ongoing in NE/IA got back onto the boards from my overly busy schedule ... at least for one night ....
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#34 Postby Derek Ortt » Mon May 24, 2004 11:47 pm

Agree with the principle, but if they try to succeed, crush them
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#35 Postby JQ Public » Tue May 25, 2004 12:37 am

Wow J?! That is one crazy article! I doubt it'll ever happen though!
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#36 Postby Guest » Tue May 25, 2004 5:04 am

Pburgh wrote:Paolo, we have several fine young women here who home school their children. They do an excellent job of teaching them about everything - including God!!!!!! I take your remarks as an insult to these wonderful parents. Shame on you!!


I'm not judging, just notice that home school is based on the fact that children are basically teached upon the strict adherence to the Bible, do not share ideas except for those like them, that inevitably makes their mind to think one way only. They are home-church-home children, they meet only those having the same ideas and thinking the same way.
Can u see some similarities with "the other side"?
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#37 Postby furluvcats » Tue May 25, 2004 4:17 pm

Paolo...further proof that you speak more from your ***, then knowledge...

Homeschooling is an option that we as "FREE AMERICANS" have...has nothing to do with Christianity, unless we as FREE AMERICANS choose to make it so.

I home school my children. The reason, because I didn't want my children in a failing educational system. I knew I could do better. And I have done better. I follow ciriculum, and also pick and choose the ciriculum I want to teach them. The only thing I chose to delete from their studies, was the theory of evolution. I do not belive this, therefore I did not teach this.

My children feed their faith in our church. I do not teach the Bible, because I feel it is better taught by Bible scholars...

You need to learn a big lesson in generalization...this seems to be prominant in any post you make. You need to first educate yourself, before you speak.

Homeschooling is a choice made by many loving parents, of all different beliefs, background, and political influences.

You have n idea in your head that homeschooling is only about teaching one thing, one way to form closed minded leaders of our future....you are so wrong...it gives parents and students alike an oppurtunity to learn in a healthy, safe, envirement...sharing knowledge, love and life...

Perhaps you should ask your parents to take a little time, and educate you ....
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#38 Postby CaluWxBill » Tue May 25, 2004 4:31 pm

Now if I am right, everybody still has to have an education, so in that case it is not FREE. What kind of rules do you have to follow for homeschooling. and, you didn't teach evolution, did you teach them anything about geology, about earthquakes, about dinosaurs. Do your kids know what dinosaurs are. Do they know any astronomy, like our Sun. of course, I don't know how far into their education they are, but there is alot of things that will bump up against evolution. I understand you don't believe in it, but I just can't see how if your kid is scientifically inclined that they will be able to fill in the puzzles without evolution. Oh well, your choice, I won't pester you anymore, please don't take any offense at what I said.
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#39 Postby furluvcats » Tue May 25, 2004 4:40 pm

No offense taken, Bill. I welcome questions on homeschooling...My kids are middle school aged. We have moved to a great state with an awesome educational system at our disposal, and the kids will attend public school again next year...

We actually did discuss evolution...they know the theory is out there, they've been shown both sides actually, and hopefully have been given the freedoms to think for themselves, and form their own opinion on the matter when it comes up again in school. They have a solid Christian foundation... This comes from being involved in church, since they were little, and practices in our home. My point to Paolo was that he is misdirected in thinking that homeschooling is only about teaching Christianity, and the ways of the Lord...Many people teach at home for various reasons, such as myself...in my case a failing school system...
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#40 Postby furluvcats » Tue May 25, 2004 4:46 pm

Also, in response to what rules do you have to follow in homeschooling...that is up to each individual state...In Louisiana, where I started homeschooling, there are no rules, no follow up visits by the state, you just send a letter of intent to the state, stating that you are homeschooling your children, and you do it...That particular state is very lax...and that is a shame too, because there may some children who are not being schooled at all... I still chose to have my children tested regularly, (standarized testing) to make sure they were on par...and they are above par! But like I said, every state has its own guidelines on homeschooling requirements.


My point on the freedom we have is that in this fine country we have the "option" to send our children to private schools, public schools, or teach them at home...
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