South Carolina target for secession

[j]

Christians look to form
'new nation' within U.S.
Same-sex marriage called last straw prompting plan for 1 state to secede

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Posted: May 24, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Joe Kovacs
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com



One less star?

Calling the approval of same-sex marriage in Massachusetts "the straw that broke the camel's back," a group of Christian activists is in the beginning stages of an effort to have one state secede from the United States to become its own sovereign nation.

"Our Christian republic has declined into a pagan democracy," says Cory Burnell, president of ChristianExodus.org, a non-profit corporation based in Tyler, Texas. "There are some issues people just can't take anymore, and [same-sex marriage] might finally wake up the complacent Christians."

Burnell is leading the charge for a peaceful secession of one state from the union, and after originally considering Alabama, Mississippi and South Carolina due to their relatively small populations, coastal access, and the Christian nature of the electorate, Burnell says South Carolina has been selected as the target location.


The plan initially calls for at least 12,000 Christians willing to be active in political campaigns to move to the Palmetto State.

"We're not an invading force, we're reinforcements," Burnell tells WorldNetDaily, saying it would be a waste to move to liberal-minded states such as Massachusetts, New York or California where conservative votes would be diluted.

According to the ChristianExodus website, which is slated for a major relaunch next month, "Christians have actively tried to return our entire land to its moral foundation for more than 20 years. We can categorically say that absolutely nothing has been achieved. If you disagree, consider this:

Abortion continues against the wishes of many states

Children may not pray in our schools

The Bible is not welcome in schools except under strict federal guidelines

The 10 Commandments remain banned from public display

Sodomy is now legal and celebrated as 'diversity' rather than perversion

Preaching Christianity will soon be outlawed as 'hate speech'

Gay marriage will be foisted upon us in the very near future
"All these atrocities continue in spite of the fact that we now have the 'right' people in places of power. Indeed, the occupant of the White House is a professing Christian. The U.S. attorney general is believed to be a devout Christian. 'Conservatives' control both Houses of Congress, and Republican presidents appointed seven of the nine Supreme Court justices."

The idea of moving thousands of people to affect the voting in one state is not new. As WorldNetDaily has previously reported, the Free State Project has goals of restoring certain personal liberties and limited government – but without seceding from the union. Last year, a group of 4,500 libertarians decided New Hampshire would be the best state.


Burnell, a math teacher and cell-phone dealer, stresses he's not looking for bloody battles that took place in the American Revolution and the Civil War, but is rather seeking a "political divorce."

"It's got to be different today," he says. "It has to be peaceful, brokered."

But he admits if the federal government decides to use military force to stop the effort, "Then it can't happen."

Already a dozen people are actively working on the project, and some 1,500 by e-mails of support have been received.

If all goes according to plan, Burnell is hoping to have a constitutional convention by 2014, with a president of the new nation – still to be known as South Carolina – elected in 2016, which is also a presidential election year in the U.S.

He says the nation would be founded on Christian principles, and the people writing its constitution would have to hash out details to safeguard it as a Christian republic.

For now, Burnell prefers to shy away from specifics on the precise laws governing the country.

"Independence first, details later," he says.

[CaluWxBill]

Oh yes homophobes secede from the Union. Now we're in trouble. I know there are some people who have problem with homosexuality, but why do people fear it. I am not gay, but for those that are I am not sure there is much they can do or even should do. People need to grow up and learn tolerance for other peoples non-violent acts. There are probably alot of gay people in South Carolina, and this kind of ratcheting up of the rhetoric will only cause chaos and confusion.

[OtherHD]

***** being nice. This ticks me off. If you don't like what I'm about to say, stuff it.

I hope these ***holes DO secede...this country would be so much better off without them, and maybe they can convince their ***hole counterparts who espouse hate and intolerance to live with them. Scum like those in the article make me proud to be a non-Christian. Christian fundamentalism (emphasis on MENTAL) is what is keeping the USA from moving forward in society. If those morons want to live in the stone age with their so-called "family values", they SHOULD make their own country. I'd be 100% FOR it!

[CaluWxBill]

***** being nice. This ticks me off. If you don't like what I'm about to say, stuff it.

I hope these ***holes DO secede...this country would be so much better off without them, and maybe they can convince their ***hole counterparts who espouse hate and intolerance to live with them. Scum like those in the article make me proud to be a non-Christian. Christian fundamentalism (emphasis on MENTAL) is what is keeping the USA from moving forward in society. If those morons want to live in the stone age with their so-called "family values", they SHOULD make their own country. I'd be 100% FOR it!

I understand your frustration bud. Christian fundamentalists are afraid of change, they are afraid of losing their values and traditions. but, for those who keep saying how are society is undergoing this rapid degradation are just sheltering themselves from changes which are meant for the better. Certainly, things aren't perfect, but I think the US has gone a long way since the begginning of our country, and has seemed to improve for the most part. So don't fear a change that becomes more tolerant of homosexuals, just because your religion prohibits the act. They do not cause many problems in society by their acts alone, and most problems are associated with the backlash against them.

[j]

***** being nice. This ticks me off. If you don't like what I'm about to say, stuff it.

Isn't it amazing how easy it is to rile the troops. Take a valium HD

[GalvestonDuck]

A few years ago, there was a group of Texans who wanted the Lone Star State to secede from the Union because, as they claimed, Texas' statehood was not legal since the "T" in Texas was not written correctly. The "T" was crossed, but the two lines did not actually touch and called into question the actual alphabetic character.

And then, of course, there was the whole North Dakota/South Dakota merger from a couple of months ago -- http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=27322

[Guest]

Are they the "new born" that prefer to have their children studing at home and just studing the Bible? The christian side of foundamentalism.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but yr current president is a "new born".

[Lindaloo]

Are they the "new born" that prefer to have their children studing at home and just studing the Bible? The christian side of foundamentalism.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but yr current president is a "new born".

Ah, the attacks on our President continues. Please do not blame Bush for this. Get a clue Paolo.

[CaluWxBill]

Are they the "new born" that prefer to have their children studing at home and just studing the Bible? The christian side of foundamentalism.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but yr current president is a "new born".

Ah, the attacks on our President continues. Please do not blame Bush for this. Get a clue Paolo.

The President has led with this sort of attitude. Certainly, he has not made a call for "Christian Republic" so to speak, but Paolo has got a point.

[Wnghs2007]

Ughhh. I hate when people like this make christianity look bad.

[Brent]

Good. Sell South Carolina to France.

[streetsoldier]

Didn't South Carolina try this once before...in 1861? And, y'all remembah whut happent thin?

It failed then as it would today; besides, as the text shows, this is being proposed by OUTSIDE interests, not necessarily the people of South Carolina.

[Pburgh]

This wonderful nation was founded on religious freedom. I think many, including myself, are concerned with God being taken out of our schools and out of our public places in general and out of our lives. I don't think this secession is the solution, but this is definitely a problem.

Paolo, we have several fine young women here who home school their children. They do an excellent job of teaching them about everything - including God!!!!!! I take your remarks as an insult to these wonderful parents. Shame on you!!

[Lindaloo]

The President has led with this sort of attitude. Certainly, he has not made a call for "Christian Republic" so to speak, but Paolo has got a point.

I disagree. Paolo attacks the President of the United States every chance he gets.

But, PBurgh said it best concerning Paolo. Well said Karan!

[southerngale]

Are they the "new born" that prefer to have their children studing at home and just studing the Bible? The christian side of foundamentalism.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but yr current president is a "new born".

What exactly is your complaint? Homeschooling parents or just homeschooling parents who teach their children about the Bible? Or our Christian president? Maybe just the Bible in general?

[j]

Didn't South Carolina try this once before...in 1861? And, y'all remembah whut happent thin?

It failed then as it would today; besides, as the text shows, this is being proposed by OUTSIDE interests, not necessarily the people of South Carolina.

THat is correct Bill. Just thought it was kind of funny because living here, this is not as crazy as an outsider might believe. There is a HUGE percentage of the State's population that would like nothing more than to be there own little state making their own little rules, and collectively shunning all Yankees/non Baptists.

I find it absurd personally the way us Yankees are treated here, but at the same time, I can respect their desire to hold true to their strong Christain beliefs, and live their life backed by a strong moral foundation.

But...there still crazy, and I have no problem telling them so.

[Lindaloo]

I find it absurd personally the way us Yankees are treated here, but at the same time, I can respect their desire to hold true to their strong Christain beliefs, and live their life backed by a strong moral foundation.

But...there still crazy, and I have no problem telling them so.

Aren't you from Massachussetts and are an embedded Yankee?

[j]

You are correct Linda. So........???

[Lindaloo]

You are correct Linda. So........???

[CaluWxBill]

You are correct Linda. So........???

Them South Carolinians will hang you once the seccession takes place. Nah, I am sure they will be cool, it will be those radical Texans that are called in to reinforce the South Carolina Christian Nation movement.