An STDS Should Be Issued

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An STDS Should Be Issued

#1 Postby Guest » Sat May 22, 2004 2:53 pm

This system is going to produce heavy amounts of rain over allready saturated ground in PR,its relatively better organized than the last system that an STDS was issued for which really did'nt amount to much.

I'm not NHC bashing just giving my opinion.
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#2 Postby vbhoutex » Sat May 22, 2004 3:12 pm

I tis really difficult to second guess the NHC and that is why I don't. different personnel make the same decisions concerning the types of statements that are to be issued using different parameters, but the same data. A lot of the time unless it is an obvious call for a TD or TS or Hurricane it is basically up to the individual forecaster on duty to make the call.

I can't disagree with the fact that it does appear that many of the same factors are present, but they may not be issuing one due to a track they see that might spare PR from more drenching(even though I know radar begs to differ!!). Also PR usually issues their own statements(not STDS)based on NHC data. To say the least they have a much better Met situation than some of the CA countries I would think.
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#3 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 22, 2004 3:15 pm

You nailed right David here in Puerto Rico there is a great team of mets at the NWS office that does great discussions and here the members haved seen those when I post them how complete they are explaining everything.And yes here the NWS puts out their own special statements sometimes in extreme events.
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#4 Postby Josephine96 » Sat May 22, 2004 5:05 pm

I do hope everyone in PR stays safe and dry.. I wish we'd get some rain..

We had our warmest day of the early season today.. 91 degrees
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#5 Postby Derek Ortt » Sat May 22, 2004 7:35 pm

Nothing is needed as no development is expected. This can and is being handled by NWS San Juan
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#6 Postby HURAKAN » Sat May 22, 2004 7:49 pm

Well, if the NHC issued a STDS for the low over Nicaragua that was generating showers and thunderstorms, I think this area of disturbance worth the same since it is causing the same effects.
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#7 Postby Derek Ortt » Sat May 22, 2004 7:52 pm

Personally, I wouldnt have issued an STDS on that system; however, a possible reason as to why it was issued was to alert the people there of the flooding threat as their NWS may be crapola
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#8 Postby HURAKAN » Sat May 22, 2004 8:08 pm

Is really clear that there is nothing interesting to talk about, b/c we are debating about whether of not the NHC should issue a STDS. :lol:

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#9 Postby Guest » Sat May 22, 2004 8:53 pm

I've seen STDSs issued for systems right of the coast of the U.S.,it happened last year twice I believe,its not like our NWS offices are crapola.

This is simple,its a tropical disturbance,its been creating lots of heavy rain over P.R & D.R,as a matter of fact its flaring up again fairly nicely as we speak..& if the excuse is that P.R's NWS are capable of handling things on their own,I'm sure the same cannot be said for D.R.
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#10 Postby *StOrmsPr* » Sat May 22, 2004 9:06 pm

MIA_canetrakker wrote:I've seen STDSs issued for systems right of the coast of the U.S.,it happened last year twice I believe,its not like our NWS offices are crapola.

This is simple,its a tropical disturbance,its been creating lots of heavy rain over P.R & D.R,as a matter of fact its flaring up again fairly nicely as we speak..& if the excuse is that P.R's NWS are capable of handling things on their own,I'm sure the same cannot be said for D.R.


Agree 100% . to me there's no excuse. this thing is causing an awful lot of rain for us (PR) but for D.R. too
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#11 Postby Brent » Sat May 22, 2004 9:14 pm

HURAKAN wrote:Is really clear that there is nothing interesting to talk about, b/c we are debating about whether of not the NHC should issue a STDS. :lol:

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LOL... :lol:
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#12 Postby MGC » Sat May 22, 2004 10:09 pm

A STDS is not warranted in either situation. Since when are heave tropical rains something of a novelty in PR or Central America? What, are we gonna get STDS every time there is a cluster of CB's south of 20 North?...............MGC
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#13 Postby weatherlover427 » Sat May 22, 2004 10:27 pm

If it's an extraordinary situation (such as this case, where 10-15 inch plus rains in PR were common) then I would want to alert the public. I wouldn't want to see it start raining; think "OK just another afternoon thunderstorm" then my house floats away. Not cool in my book.
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#14 Postby HURAKAN » Sat May 22, 2004 10:29 pm

My point is that since they issued a STDS for a weak low pressure over the coast of Nicaragua because the threat of flooding and landslides, the same situation is happening to Puerto Rico, they have a weak low pressure to their SW and they are recieving tons of tropical rain.

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#15 Postby HURAKAN » Sun May 23, 2004 9:19 am

The tropical low continues to pound the Hispaniola with heavy rain, I think a STDS now should be issued.

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#16 Postby Hurricanehink » Sun May 23, 2004 2:47 pm

Maybe the NHC watches our message board. A STDS was issued at 11:30.
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