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Warm water vs cool water

#1 Postby hurricanetrack » Sat May 15, 2004 9:44 pm

Wow, the water temp anomalies off the East Coast are impressive...

https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/products/OTI ... nomaly.gif

Also, note the continued cold tongue extending westward from South America.

Is this the set up for a classic hurricane landfall in a few months? Time will tell.
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#2 Postby Aquawind » Sun May 16, 2004 5:35 am

I hear ya warm north and cool south... Things can change rather quickly and probably will. Last year was exceptionally cool off the Florida coast but that turned around as well. With what seems to be more High Pressure and Ridging in the east the waters should continue to build energy.

If you look at the location of the cool anomilies in the EPAC they are well south of 10N and not in the Cane development area anyway. 10-20N and they look fairly normal. Yes the temps do change dramaticaly.

This is a nice comparison link, although it may not be the most accurate.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutsst.shtml?
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#3 Postby chadtm80 » Sun May 16, 2004 7:33 am

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#4 Postby Guest » Sun May 16, 2004 9:46 am

Last year @ this time the SST anomalies around the Bahamas, Fla & GOM were much warmer.

Is that persistent easterly flow caused by the Bermuda High responsible for the cooler than normal SSTs so far this year in those same waters?
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#5 Postby Aquawind » Sun May 16, 2004 12:54 pm

MIA_canetrakker wrote:Last year @ this time the SST anomalies around the Bahamas, Fla & GOM were much warmer.

Is that persistent easterly flow caused by the Bermuda High responsible for the cooler than normal SSTs so far this year in those same waters?



Actually the SSTs off the east coast including florida were below early in the season last year. The persistant trough in the East caused a continued frontal passages and heavy rains. The cool NW winds caused upwelling along the coastline and the runoff/rains/clouds slowed the warming process even more. Evidently this happens from time to time. There were some articles posted about it last year as well. 8-)


As far as the Bermuda High cooling the waters goes I doubt it. The cooler water is along the coast and further N of Bermuda. Notice the above normal anomolies near Bermuda. More likely the cool and late spring is responsible and things will continue to warm quickly as they do this time of year. 8-)

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gifs/atl_anom.gif

This graphic is over a week old and we have been under a ridge for a couple weeks so this graphic will change radicaly I figure..Water is slow to change wether it's cooling or heating..
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#6 Postby Guest » Sun May 16, 2004 2:37 pm

Actually the SSTs last year in the area I mentioned were warmer than normal.

Here it is

Last year
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This year
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#7 Postby Aquawind » Sun May 16, 2004 3:00 pm

I did mention early in the season and it's not season for a couple weeks yet. But yea it seems like it's behind schedule at this point alrighty.. :) Cool is good.. :) Here is an article in refference to the cool waters..

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/news/20 ... ntic_x.htm
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#8 Postby Guest » Sun May 16, 2004 3:43 pm

Well I did say last year at this time :) & I also said the waters around Fla,Bahamas & GOM :wink: & even last year early in the season those waters were slightly above normal.The waters that were a bit below normal were further north than where I mentioned.

Its ok though I know the point you are trying to make.
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#9 Postby Aquawind » Sun May 16, 2004 3:55 pm

I hear ya..I should have clarified my timing better..the GOM surprises me most..I didn't think it was that cool this spring..although as a fellow S Floridian you know it was nice. 8-)
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