Tax Cuts: A Simple Lesson in Economics

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Tax Cuts: A Simple Lesson in Economics

#1 Postby southerngale » Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:45 am

Economics 101

Sometimes Politicians can exclaim; "It's just a tax cut for the rich!", and it is just accepted to be fact. But what does that really mean? Just in case you are not completely clear on this issue, I hope the following will help.



Tax Cuts - A Simple Lesson In Economics

This is how the cookie crumbles. Please read it carefully.

Let's put tax cuts in terms everyone can understand. Suppose that every day, ten men go out for dinner. The bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh $7.
The eighth $12.
The ninth $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do.

The ten men ate dinner in the restaurant every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve.

"Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily meal by $20."

So, now dinner for the ten only cost $80. The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes.

So, the first four men were unaffected. They would still eat for free. But what about the other six, the paying customers?
How could they divvy up the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share'?

The six men realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being 'PAID' to eat their meal.

So, the restaurant owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.
And so:
The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% savings).
The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to eat for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings.

"I only got a dollar out of the $20," declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man "but he got $10!"

"Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than me!"

"That's true!!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10 back when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!"

"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!"

The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up. The next night the tenth man didn't show up for dinner, so the nine sat down and ate without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up at the table anymore. There are lots of good restaurants in Europe and the Caribbean.
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#2 Postby rainstorm » Wed Apr 28, 2004 4:42 am

thanks
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#3 Postby j » Wed Apr 28, 2004 7:15 am

That was great! How can you possibly argue against trickle down economics??

We Conservatives welcome debate...please explain how taxing the living crap out of the rich will work
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#4 Postby southerngale » Wed Apr 28, 2004 4:08 pm

I don't see any arguments yet j. :)
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#5 Postby j » Fri Apr 30, 2004 11:32 am

*bump* (just in case the Liberals have overlooked this)
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#6 Postby wx247 » Fri Apr 30, 2004 11:33 am

I don't disagree. I just feel sometimes we are too quick to say NO to taxes at least in my area.
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#7 Postby j » Fri Apr 30, 2004 11:44 am

with all due respect Garrett..this isn't just about taxes, or raising taxes...its about the mis-information that is spoon fed to the masses that tax cuts benefit only the rich.
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#8 Postby wx247 » Fri Apr 30, 2004 11:56 am

You asked for argument... I simply stated I had none.
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#9 Postby j » Fri Apr 30, 2004 12:17 pm

no...I welcomed "debate"..Kelley asked for an "argument" lol
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#10 Postby wx247 » Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:01 pm

j wrote:no...I welcomed "debate"..Kelley asked for an "argument" lol


Well... whatever. :lol:
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#11 Postby southerngale » Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:30 pm

hey, it's Kelly, no extra e. :x
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#12 Postby j » Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:46 pm

now Kelley...that's my first ever slip up....give a j a break!
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#13 Postby southerngale » Fri Apr 30, 2004 2:05 pm

Alright g, that's 2 slip ups! 8-)
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#14 Postby Stephanie » Fri Apr 30, 2004 2:11 pm

It looks to me that the refund for each was calculated based on the percentage of the original bill they paid approximately;

The fifth man paid 1% of the total bill - 1% of the refund is 20 cents (okay that one is a little far off).
The sixth man paid 3% of the total bill - 3% of the refund is 60 cents (round up to $1).
The seventh man paid 7% of the total bill - 7% of the refund is $1.40 (round up to $2).
The eighth man paid 12% of the total bill - 12% of the refund is $2.40 (round up to $3).
The ninth man paid 18% of the total bill - 18% of the refund is $3.60 (round up to $4).
The tenth man paid 59% of the total bill - 59% of the refund is $11.80 (rounded down to $10).
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